Peavey Cirrus 5 Indonesia Neck Joint Crack

[Timm Bill]

Hi folks, I just got this Peavey Cirrus 5 Made in Indo from an online seller then i saw this hair crack on the neck joint. The seller says; "It cracks because its an old stock, my other Cirrus that i have in stock have hair crack in the neck joint aswell, its not a problem"

I just wondering does any of you guys have the same problem with me? What is the best solution to prevent the crack from spreading?

 

[songwriter21]

Hi folks, I just got this Peavey Cirrus 5 Made in Indo from an online seller then i saw this hair crack on the neck joint. The seller says; "It cracks because its an old stock, my other Cirrus that i have in stock have hair crack in the neck joint aswell, its not a problem"

I just wondering does any of you guys have the same problem with me? What is the best solution to prevent the crack from spreading?

I call bs from the seller, but then again, it could be lesser quality/improper wood seasoning from being an Indonesian model, and not U.S. I can see seams/joints showing or degrading glue joints over time, but that crack is odd. What kind of finish?

 

[tindrum]

While I don’t think it’s a long term problem the seller should have disclosed it. The old stock excuse is lame and completely false. I have several Aria neck thru basses from the 1980’s that have zero cracks. Likely some inferior wood, but again I don’t think there’s a danger of anything structurally going south there.

 

[kodiakblair]

I call bs from the seller, but then again, it could be lesser quality/improper wood seasoning from being an Indonesian model, and not U.S.

Likely some inferior wood, but again I don’t think there’s a danger of anything structurally going south there.

Aside from being one of the world's biggest musical instrument companies and a big name player with pianos , Samick also built the Cirrus for Peavey. I'm trying to fathom why a 75 year old financially secure company with a reputation for being a safe trustworthy pair of hands for contract work would risk using 'inferior wood' ? To be successful a contractor must deliver certain key points; on time, on budget and on spec.

Samick produce 600k guitars/basses per year. Nobody gets that big by delivering shoddy product.

 

[tindrum]

Aside from being one of the world's biggest musical instrument companies and a big name player with pianos , Samick also built the Cirrus for Peavey. I'm trying to fathom why a 75 year old financially secure company with a reputation for being a safe trustworthy pair of hands for contract work would risk using 'inferior wood' ? To be successful a contractor must deliver certain key points; on time, on budget and on spec.

Samick produce 600k guitars/basses per year. Nobody gets that big by delivering shoddy product.

Very fair and valid points but Samick made instruments, on average, aren’t going to have the same quality of woods or hardware than a U.S. made one. I’ve owned several Korean and Indonesian Samick made basses and guitars. All of them were fine but the quality difference was evident. Not knocking the manufacturer at all. They build to a standard they are given. Peavey hasn’t exactly lived up to their good reputation in recent years as evidenced by the Undercover Boss episode. They really began to let things slide, which is unfortunate. This is coming from a longtime Peavey user and a fan of their products for decades.

 

[arbiterusa]

Very fair and valid points but Samick made instruments, on average, aren’t going to have the same quality of woods or hardware than a U.S. made one.

Disagree vehemently. I say this as someone who worked for a high-end US manufacturer of acoustics, and for an importer of acoustic instruments from Asia. The woods are the same, the hardware all has come from Asia for many years now. Korean, Indonesian, Chinese, Japanese or American manufacturer - all the same wood sources, all the same hardware sources. Samick is one of the largest maker of musical instruments in the world. They don't get second-rate materials, they get first pick of everything.

Now that I've got that off my chest:

While I don’t think it’s a long term problem the seller should have disclosed it. The old stock excuse is lame and completely false.

Wholly agree. The Indo instruments are great instruments and hold up fine. That bass has seen some temperature extremes, and is starting to crack/separate along the body wing glue joint. Since it's not the neck joint, I'd probably just not do anything at all.

 

[kodiakblair]

Very fair and valid points but Samick made instruments, on average, aren’t going to have the same quality of woods or hardware than a U.S. made one.

I don't see why they shouldn't.

With the exception of a nut from Canada and the German ABM bridge, all the hardware,pickups and electronics used on the US Cirrus was imported from Korea. Since Samick is a Korean company sourcing the same parts would be cheap and easy, their piano manufacturing side will have 'quality' wood in abundance.

That said, I have no argument with your suggestion any inferior build quality was by Peavey's instruction or inadequate build budget.

This is coming from a longtime Peavey user and a fan of their products for decades.

At one time I owned 60+ Peavey basses so the same applies to me

 

[kodiakblair]

That bass has seen some temperature extremes, and is starting to crack/separate along the body wing glue joint.

Is it a crack ?
I was thinking more some filler used to sweeten the curve towards the wing had come away.

 

[Timm Bill]

Wholly agree. The Indo instruments are great instruments and hold up fine. That bass has seen some temperature extremes, and is starting to crack/separate along the body wing glue joint. Since it's not the neck joint, I'd probably just not do anything at all.

While I don’t think it’s a long term problem the seller should have disclosed it. The old stock excuse is lame and completely false. I have several Aria neck thru basses from the 1980’s that have zero cracks. Likely some inferior wood, but again I don’t think there’s a danger of anything structurally going south there.

So i shouldn't worry at all?

 

[Timm Bill]

I call bs from the seller, but then again, it could be lesser quality/improper wood seasoning from being an Indonesian model, and not U.S. I can see seams/joints showing or degrading glue joints over time, but that crack is odd. What kind of finish?

I dunno, didnt feel any coating on the body, the body just feel coarse. No coating maybe?

 

[Timm Bill]

Is it a crack ?
I was thinking more some filler used to sweeten the curve towards the wing had come away.

Yes it is, i can feel the gap

 

[tindrum]

So i shouldn't worry at all?

Probably not. Maybe have a good tech take a peek at it. At minimum he could wick some CA glue into the crack and guarantee there would be no issues.

 

[songwriter21]

I dunno, didnt feel any coating on the body, the body just feel coarse. No coating maybe?

Could be an oil finish. A ways back, U.S. models, had oil, gloss, etc, but the necks always had an oil/urethane mix, so not sure if yours has that, too. But, yes, the body on yours is oil-finished.

 

[kodiakblair]

Yes it is, i can feel the gap

Then it's cosmetic not structural damage, nothing to worry about but chin the seller for some kind of rebate