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Pedalboard? Multi-Effect? Other?

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blopazone

Sep 9, 2009
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#1
Hello.

I've been wondering about this and I seriously can't come up with enough information to find what I'm looking for.

Basically I really like synthy sounds and be it flangers modulations delays fuzzes distortions filter and all that kind of effects and I want something that gives me plenty of possibilities with those and alot of control over them to experiment.

I don't really find tone shaping that neccesary, I believe it's in my bass, my fingers, my amp, and the equalisation I prefer to be put it in.

With all these I dont know what I should get either a multi effects pedal such as the GT-10B since it has alot of effects however I do believe it has maybe too much tone shaping (I might be wrong if so please tell me) And a Pedalboard with different effects on it might be too expensive plus I dont have the advantage of presets but I do have the ability to move knobs around whenever I want.

I come here for some advice, suggestion or experiences to help my decisions.

Thanks alot beforehand ;D
 
#3
just keep picking up any affordable single effects you can find. Multis are nice, I haven't played many, but having a dedicated stomp box is the way to go IMO.

Once you get enough you can play around with order, line splitting, multiple amps... the fun is endless with a bunch of stompboxes
 
#5
I don't get how people can say individual stomp boxes are the way to go, when quality single bass effects pedals can cost 100-200 bucks, especially synths. I've seen synth pedals for bass that cost more than a GT-10B. I haven't messed around with the synth on the GT-10B, but most multi-effect synth sounds are pretty cheesy or just plain bad. Definitely look into the M9 and M13 as well, they provide lots of options in customizing one if you're looking for a new one.
 
#11
blopazone said:
Anyone had any experiences switching from multi-effects to pedalboards or viceversa? What changes did you notice? What did you miss? What are your opinions now?
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ive done both. ive switched to and ive switched from. the biggest change ive noticed is that with single effects, its much easier to tweak them seperately, and tweaking in general is much easier. the Line6 M9/13 gets closer to this, but its still not quite there. also, flexibility in routing. single effects can be re routed very quickly, whereas most multis have a fixed chain. with the multis, i missed the ability to tweak things on the fly. its really simple stuff like opening up a filter more so that you can hear yourself or changing the gain on a fuzz, but in the end i couldnt deal with it. my current allegiance is in the single field, but i also have a couple of multis that i do rather like. the Line6 M9 is definitely something i would use on a miniboard, and i have an Oberheim GM1000 which ive used on bass and keys. its early multi technology, but for things like synths and the second channel of my Sunn 0))) Beta Bass, its pretty cool.
 
#12
blopazone said:
Anyone had any experiences switching from multi-effects to pedalboards or viceversa? What changes did you notice? What did you miss? What are your opinions now?
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I moved from a Zoom B2 to a collection of pedals.
While I was committed to the Zoom I had virtually no pedal gas, now I have plenty.
Preset convenience was kind of nice but tweaking on the fly or improvising sound changes was difficult.
Tweaking presets can be amusing or exhausting.
I like the intuitive interface of my pedals.
I really don't miss the buffer of my multi and the way it squashed my dynamics-this is the reason I'm not using both.
I'm spending a sh@t load more time and money obsessing about pedals.
If I didn't already have some very nice expensive (and one pretty rare) pedals I'd go for an M9 or M13 at this point, I think.
 
#13
There are some multi-effects processors that has decent sound quality. zoom processors is one of them. I have a zoom b2.1u and it sounds pretty cool. boss processors are not too shabby. I've tried both the me-50b and the me-20b. both sounded pretty cool. korg processors has awesome sound quality. If you're lucky enough to find one, the korg ax3000b is worth checking out. it has a large variety of effects, amp and cab models. it's usable for recording and live performances. it's a shame that they've been discontinued. but still it's an awesome multi-effects processor. in case you're curious about how the korg ax3000b sounds, come check out my soundclick website. I have sound samples of the korg ax3000b.

www.soundclick.com/crystalman85

check out the next page for the sound samples of the korg ax3000b.
 
#14
Is anybody pleased with the M9/13's ability to tweak things on the fly? The fact that it has got the knobs ready whenever you press an effect gives you the ability to play around. How is this feature? And how is it compared with pedalboards?

Thanks for all your help an opinions this far by the way. At the moment I'm really interested in the M13
 
#15
If you get an M13, you still have to buy an expression pedal in order to be able to have the functionality of a wah and volume pedal, I'm not even sure it has a Wah in it. For me, honestly, 40% of the reason I own a multi-effects pedal is to use it as a volume pedal, a tuner, and a compressor in one unit. The added bonus of getting to use Wah, Whammy, and assigning variable control of any effect to the expression pedal (can't do that with stomp boxes) is really nice, so give the Zoom and the Boss another look over since they're all about the same price range.
 
#16
The Boss GT-10B is REALLY GOOD!! it has pretty much at least 2 of everything, so you can use 2 synths, either in series or in parallel.
I also use the Roland GR-20 for a lot of my synth stuff, because with the way i have it setup, i can have background synth tracking along while i am playing a clean bass line.
 
#17
Has anyone tried to use the Boss ME-50 guitar version on their bass rig? I have one from the guitar days, but have heard different opinions about using guitar effects on a bass. Some say it's no problem to use, and others say that it will not sound correct.

Any thoughts/ideas?:help:

Thanks,

Jason S.
 
#18
Zoom B9.iut has some very good weird sound synthy stuff in it. The Zoom B2 is like all the other low end multi effects to me though, sad and disapointing. Of course if you really want synth voices with bass theres only one way to go. Add midi pup to your bass and then use the bass as a controller for your hardware synth of choice. Ive tried boss. korg, and digitech upper end units as well, disapointing to me in comparrison to the upper end Zooms.
 
#19
1jstrong said:
Has anyone tried to use the Boss ME-50 guitar version on their bass rig? I have one from the guitar days, but have heard different opinions about using guitar effects on a bass. Some say it's no problem to use, and others say that it will not sound correct.

Any thoughts/ideas?:help:

Thanks,

Jason S.
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Honestly, the person I think that could best answer this question is Michael Manring. He's on the forum here, and he has his own special section in which he answers questions. He's been using a Boss GT-3 for guitar on his Piccolo and Regular basses for as long as I can remember. It's all a question of this: How does the unit respond to the lower frequencies of bass.

Many pedals for bass are merely modified guitar pedals designed to affect a different range of frequencies. In some cases I don't think it's a big deal (distortion, phaser, and reverb/delay pedals) while others are a bigger deal to me, most notably a compressor. It's all about the way it sounds really, which can change from bass to bass and amp to amp.

As for the Boss ME-50, I've had an easier time finding the guitar version used for cheaper than the bass version (probably why you're asking) as many guitarists fall into the same pedal trap that bassists do. If you're not looking for a ton of effects and you want the basics, either version will be fine for you. However, I can recommend using the bass version as I have tried using both on two of my three basses and simply found the sounds more pleasing out of the bass version. That's my two cents, I never purchased the unit but I had a long affair with the idea of buying it for many years when it first came out.
 

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