"People Don't Like Making Music"

[Bunk McNulty]

From the story:
“And so that is first and foremost giving everybody the joys of creating music and this is a huge departure from how it is now. It’s not really enjoyable to make music now […] It takes a lot of time, it takes a lot of practice, you need to get really good at an instrument or really good at a piece of production software. I think the majority of people don’t enjoy the majority of the time they spend making music.”

CEO of AI Music company says people don't enjoy making music.

Let's just say if I met this guy on the street I would behave very badly.

 

[Sam Evans]

I'm not sure what he means by "the majority of people." The general public, uh okay. But of musicians? I call BS.

 

[pepj]

Indeed, Salesman... doesn't mean he is selling anything that people want...although its what he wants, no doubt

 

[turf3]

From the story:
“And so that is first and foremost giving everybody the joys of creating music and this is a huge departure from how it is now. It’s not really enjoyable to make music now […] It takes a lot of time, it takes a lot of practice, you need to get really good at an instrument or really good at a piece of production software. I think the majority of people don’t enjoy the majority of the time they spend making music.”

I think he needs to get out more.

Yo, buddy, ever been to to a bluegrass jam? Not everyone there is "really good at an instrument" and there IS no "production software" - just people creating handmade music with actual instruments. Sometimes it's pretty damn rough. And we have a ball.

 

[Killing Floor]

Another failed guitarist

 

[Winslow]

"...I think the majority of people don’t enjoy the majority of the time they spend making music.”

Somebody selling something to circumvent a process doesn't understand or appreciate the process.

Educated (and promoted, and compensated) beyond his intelligence.*

*Probably just as "artificial" as his product.

 

[MonetBass]

The guy clearly doesn't understand musicians. One of my favorite things to do is create music, whether that's playing with others or writing and playing my own stuff.

 

[turf3]

The guy clearly doesn't understand musicians. One of my favorite things to do is create music, whether that's playing with others or writing and playing my own stuff.

Yeah, I mean, why bother going on dates when you can use the Masturbo-Matic? Why bother cooking and eating when you can just eat new AI People Chow? Why buy six packs of expensive imported beer when you can just swig a couple ounces of grain alcohol?

I often use this analogy:

You can get into a medium-priced modern automobile and travel 200 miles before lunch, almost completely isolated from vibration, with climate control maintaining your surroundings at a constant 68F, listening to your favorite tunes, and step out of the car almost unfatigued. And yet people continue to RIDE HORSES.

 

[turf3]

If the only tool you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. Personally I can think of a list of about 500 things I'd rather do than "create [fake] music using AI":

Sleep
Pray
Make actual music
Go for a walk
Work (at my actual job, that pays my living)
Go for a run
Go for a bike ride
Take a dump
Have sex
Think about having sex while not actually having sex
Cook dinner
Eat dinner
Wash the dishes
Take out the garbage
Clean the grease trap
Etc......

 

[FugaziBomb]

 

[JRA]

mikey shulman, he's a genius....but it will take 500 years for that to be recognized --- like joe bauers in idiocracy.

 

[jTrolt]

The best answer is likely going to be this:
Real musicians continue to make real music, using actual emotion, which is what music is quite clearly all about, if you want to connect with human beings.

AI proponents, who's sole intent is to get a robot to deal with all that pesky effort, will continue to pump it out, for the sole purpose of generating "content". But it will most likely be shallow, lots of sizzle, lacking in much depth, and quickly become repetitive. (Have you visited YTube lately?)
Remember, it is trained primarily in algorithm, not actual rhythm. This will appeal to many, especially for commercial pursuits.
Anyone recall an industry from a couple decades ago, named MUZAK? Just the right crap in all the places it was best suited for. Like public restrooms.
Yeah! music to take a sh@@t to!

No worries. We'll be able to find our audience. Just don't quit your day job, as the biggest thing the AI systems will have going for them is the backing of the CEO's, focused solely on the best results for the investors and shareholders. Not much room for creative types there.
They'll drive the algorithms till the wheels fall off, while a few brave musicians will be happily pumping out musical expressions, direct from the soul.
Sound familiar? Aren't we already in this situation, more or less?

As Geddy sang it;
"the more that things change, the more they stay the same".

I do not fear the robots. I fear the humans that fail to look beyond the superfluous.
Fortunate are we, who stumbled our way into a deeper form of expression with this wonderful gift of music.

 

[bullshark]

Surprisingly(or unsurprisingly), if people did not spend decade embarking in this "unenjoyable" endeavour that is playing and recording original music, his so called "AI" would have nothing to steal from to "generate" music with.

 

[dbsfgyd1]

From the story:
“And so that is first and foremost giving everybody the joys of creating music and this is a huge departure from how it is now. It’s not really enjoyable to make music now […] It takes a lot of time, it takes a lot of practice, you need to get really good at an instrument or really good at a piece of production software. I think the majority of people don’t enjoy the majority of the time they spend making music.”

CEO of AI Music company says people don't enjoy making music.

Let's just say if I met this guy on the street I would behave very badly.

He’s just drinking his own kool-aide. For me I’m passionate about creating music, and less so about live performance. Something about starting with a blank canvas and ending up with a worthwhile project is much more fulfilling that 2 hours of painting one just like it.

 

[J-Bass RMR]

"People Don't Like (insert any activity/profession that involves effort or thought)"​

.... and AI wins!


EDIT:

We've taken care of everything
The words you hear, the songs you sing
The pictures that give pleasure to your eyes
It's one for all, all for one
We work together, common sons
Never need to wonder how or why

 

[D.A.R.K.]

With the amount of music being made, and the quality of the majority of it, I don't think they are wrong. Very little in new popular culture releases is interesting these days. I do remember when it was unusual to be in bands. Now, do we need AI to do it instead of everyone with a laptop and DAW? No.... please, no...

 

[Katoosie]

Of course some out of touch AI CEO seller is going to say stuff like this. They're selling you a product. Don't worry, the 50 or so people on TalkBass will laugh at this, me included.

But millions will buy whatever they are selling.

 

[Discount Bassy]

The bar will always fall if no one makes a point of raising it.

 

[Code Brown]

CEO of AI Music company says people don't enjoy making music.

CEO of health insurance company says people don't enjoy affordable healthcare.
Might want to be careful... Just kidding

But does AI enjoy making music? Maybe we'll find out soon.

 

[Jeff Hughes]

There are just so many other easy and instant ways to entertain ourselves in our leisure times. This is harder to undo given the earlier the exposure we now have to easy instant screen activities. It is like wearing shoes your whole life versus growing up without ever wearing them.