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"People Don't Like Making Music"

Let's hope that music making in the US doesn't become like cooking here: The Food Network is hugely successful, American obsess about food and cooking, but the majority eat out or eat take-out regularly. When cooking becomes competition, something is lost, and the same is true of music making.
My favorite film? Ratatouille, of course. "Anyone can cook!"
Anyone can make music. We're born to it.
 
Also, we’re at a point in the cycle where conventional musical skill isn’t especially valued. As was true in the punk rock era, for another example. Versus the 70s perhaps, when radio songs like “The Boys are Back” had complex chordal and format structures. That pendulum swings back and forth.

By which I mean that it’s really not hard to make music right now. A lot of the hot 100 songs don’t even have a chorus or bridge, just a repeating vocal motif that tells you that you’re not in a verse. I think the basics of some of these songs are developed in a matter of minutes.
 
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From the story:
“And so that is first and foremost giving everybody the joys of creating music and this is a huge departure from how it is now. It’s not really enjoyable to make music now […] It takes a lot of time, it takes a lot of practice, you need to get really good at an instrument or really good at a piece of production software. I think the majority of people don’t enjoy the majority of the time they spend making music.”

CEO of AI Music company says people don't enjoy making music.

Let's just say if I met this guy on the street I would behave very badly.
What a dumb thing to say. I haven’t been playing for 43 years because it’s hard and I’m still trying to figure it out, I’ve been playing this long because it’s awesome.

Edit: although it *is* hard and I *am* still trying to figure it out.
 
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Also, we’re at a point in the cycle where conventional musical skill isn’t especially valued. As was true in the punk rock era, for another example. Versus the 70s perhaps, when radio songs like “The Boys are Back” had complex chordal and format structures. That pendulum swings back and forth.

By which I mean that it’s really not hard to make music right now. A lot of the hot 100 songs don’t even have a chorus or bridge, just a repeating vocal motif that tells you that you’re not in a verse. I think the basics of some of these songs are developed in a matter of minutes.
I'm always amazed on how many "writers" are listed on today's hits, WAP has five writers listed. 😊
 
Idk, if they’d create an AI software that does all the BS in the DAW for me, I’d be interested.

Plugging some mics and DIs in, hitting record etc, no big deal and I kinda like it. The mixing, fussing with plug ins, EQing, etc? Absolutely hate it. Then, there’s “mastering”, which I have no idea what it does at all, but has been outsourced to AI for a while.

But the playing/writing part? Keep your grubby, 11 fingered, AI hands out of it.
 
Idk, if they’d create an AI software that does all the BS in the DAW for me, I’d be interested.

Plugging some mics and DIs in, hitting record etc, no big deal and I kinda like it. The mixing, fussing with plug ins, EQing, etc? Absolutely hate it. Then, there’s “mastering”, which I have no idea what it does at all, but has been outsourced to AI for a while.

But the playing/writing part? Keep your grubby, 11 fingered, AI hands out of it.
It's okay, and probably good to admit you don't like mixing, or fully understand mastering..... but don't try to play it off like AI can do those things with any reasonable artistic sensibility either. As someone who mixes AND masters, I assure you that AI cannot 'master' a record. And people who really can master records can ALWAYS tell when it was just a bunch of plug and play presets with a stock limiter setting or 2. Intuitive mixing and mastering will always require a human touch, even if it's all done in the box.
 
From the story:
“And so that is first and foremost giving everybody the joys of creating music and this is a huge departure from how it is now. It’s not really enjoyable to make music now […] It takes a lot of time, it takes a lot of practice, you need to get really good at an instrument or really good at a piece of production software. I think the majority of people don’t enjoy the majority of the time they spend making music.”

CEO of AI Music company says people don't enjoy making music.

Let's just say if I met this guy on the street I would behave very badly.
Translated: "people are lazy but I want to make some money."

Fine by me, not my pond tho.