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#21
I'm totally guilty of hyping these products:

Valenti
Callowhill
REDDI
Bergantino IPs
and the Fender TPB-1 pre-amp

BUT, I hype them up and gush about them because they give me the tone in my head and there's a chance that they might do the same for someone else! And knowing someone else found their tone due in some small part to you is a fantastic feeling. Isn't it Tom? lol :p
 
#27
I bought my Schroeder cab and then discovered the Schroeder mega-thread here. I'm sure I contributed to it with a post or two about how impressed I was with my cab. It would be interesting to search and see if I "gushed" and hyped the product, maybe I did, I don't remember!
The point is, I bought the cab based on my experience with it in the store, and I still have it 2 years later. It still looks and sounds new, even though I have used it on more than enough gigs to where it has paid for itself long ago.
I've also bought three basses from seeing them here on TB, and all of them were great instruments that worked really well for me.
And BTW usually when I have sold something in the classifieds, it was more about financial resources than being let down by some gear.
Hype works, sometimes.
 
#28
There is certainly a lot of hyping going on, and bashing. I imagine there is a subset of people doing a lot of that because there is only a subset of people willing and able to buy/sell bass gear constantly.

As for hyping/bashing, one man's tone is another man's crap, so really, no one but me can tell me what great tone is.

And that goes for everyone else! Eveyone has unique ears.
 
#29
Noting who the regular "offenders" ;) are is not only useful for putting their gushing/bashing into perspective, it also allows you to note when somebody else gets all excited about a product and they don't normally do that sort of thing. That's whose reviews get my interest!
 
#30
Joshua said:
there is little question whose opinion is worth taking into account and whose isn't...
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truer words were never spoken...

The hype meter can go off the scale here and it seems to start prior to some folks even getting a chance to try the gear they hype - let alone after the first month's romance has faded ... Most of the forum's I visit are much smaller and each individuals voice is correspondingly louder and each individual is correspondingly bettter known. and there is significantly less hype. Abso-Friggin' lootely no question there ... It's kinda like living in a small town vs a big city ...
 
#31
USAJO said:
Not trying to ruffle anyone's feathers but this is a phenom that I noticed when I first visited here. Somebody buys a piece of gear and raves about it. Pretty soon there becomes a slew of threads hyping the above mentioned gear. (gear dejour) Now the posts pile up and if you look closely it is a small number of TB'ers who respond to every thread that mentions the amp/bass dejour. So it appears the whole world loves this item. I haven't noticed this phenom on other forums, bass or guitar but here at TB this seems to be the norm. The first I recall was Accugroove, then Schroeder and now Markbass.
It makes me feel skeptical about the gear. At first I thought there must be some type of seedy motivation for this now I think it is just a TB thing. Anyone else ever think about this? Really not trying to offend anyone I just think it is a legitimate topic for discussion. :hiding:
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I call it "human nature".:)
 
#32
For all the hyping that goes on on the newest products, there's also alot of bashing. Kinda serves to balance things out. Most of us are smart enough to discern between hype and a legitimate review. For example, a new member recently provided a "review" of a number of basses he had tried out during a day of visiting music stores. I tend to ignore that type of review, simply because the writer has very little time with the instruments. If someone, however, is gushing about a product after spending some time with it and gigging with it, then I tend to listen.

The other thing I look for is quality of the review. If someone gives a quality review, pointing out both good and bad aspects of the gear, then I tend to give it more credibility. If someone, however, simply states something like "It rocks! It blows everything else out of the water!" without any critical thought, then I tend to dismiss it is gushing.

I have been guilty at times of gushing over a new piece of gear, only to sell it shortly thereafter once I've had some time with it. I think it's just human nature.
 
#33
I agree that there's hype and bias and useful info all at the same time. I haven't posted much here, but I'm a regular on the Dingwall forum, and if there's one thing I like at TB, in spite of all the backround noise, it's that there's (obviously) a greater diversity of opinions. I'm a fan of fanned frets and Jones cabs, but the simple reality is that both tone and playability/ergonomics are matters of taste, otherwise we could just measure it all and decare a winner. This thread, however, does remind me of my main beef with gear evaluation, especially in mags, and that's the complete failure to try to judge tone by ear alone in a blind setting. If that could occur, there'd be far less hollow hype IMO.
 
#34
The first I recall was Accugroove, then Schroeder and now Markbass.
It makes me feel skeptical about the gear.
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I remember the big buzz over the Kustom Groovebass amp here. Hmm, seems to have cooled a bit.

Any time someone writes a gear review, there should be a moratorium on people responding with OMG I HAVE GAS!!!!!!!!!

A limit on the use of ALL CAPS and exclamation points (!!!!!!!!!) and these little guys :hyper: :hyper: :hyper: :hyper: :hyper: :hyper: :hyper: might be a good idea, too.
 
#36
WillPlay4Food said:
It's also funny to see the gear someone gushed about in the For Sale section about two months after the gushing stops. :) The basses forum is good for this too.
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I actually love watching this- I paruse the Classifieds sometimes just to see it, particularly basses.

The sad part is I've been guilty of it myself once or twice :crying:
 
#38
4lPh4n0m3g4 said:
Dont believe the hype! :D

Sheeple are everywhere. :ninja:

Opinions are just that, opinions; so take them with a grain of salt.

DARE... to think for yourself.
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Well put.

I ABSOLUTELY LOVE my new Ampeg B2RE and after trying over a dozen different heads, I now know this gives me the bestest, greatest, most amazingest sound possible!!!:bassist: :hyper:

This head might make anyone elses setups sound like complete **** though. :eyebrow:

So unless you are playing a Bongo5 or Geddy Jazz through a Bass PODxt and Ampeg cabs while playing Green Day or STP, why the hell would anyone buy what I bought on my recommendation?:confused:
 
#39
I've been guilty of raving, then selling. But really, alot of items in the classifieds are only for sale to fund new gear, and doesn't really detract from the ravings.

I sold alot of gear that I still rave about. If it's so good, why did I sell it? To try out new stuff. I have my main head, cab and basses, but am still curious. I would probably never sale the stuff that gets the most use, but some things I don't use everyday and want to get something that I may.

aka GAS!!
 
#40
Largely synonymous with exaggeration and overstatement, hyperbole (pronounced /haɪˈpɝbəli/ or "hy-PER-buh-lee") ("HY-per-bowl" is a mispronunciation) is a figure of speech in which statements are exaggerated. It may be used due to strong feelings or is used to create a strong impression and is not meant to be taken literally. It gives greater emphasis. It is often used in poetry and is a literary device. As well as a referendum
  • "He has a brain the size of a pinhead."
  • "I could eat a horse."
  • "I've heard that a billion and one times."
After reading the definition of hype, I'm sure no one on TB has ever engaged in such a practice.

I try to resist hyping a product by waiting until I've used a it a couple of months, before I froth at the fingers about it.

Lakland and Aguilar, the more I have of each, the happier I am. And I've used both for years.

I generally enjoy the hype. I'm glad to see folks get excited about anything having to do with music.

I take the hype with a grain of salt. Some's good and some's bad, you have to consider the source. But most of it is entertaining.

I have learned more from TB (including the hype) about all things bass, then I have ANY other source.
That's why I throw my nickel in the till.

PS: To answer the OP: Perspective is ultimately the readers responsibilty...
 

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