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Pet Monkey?

Nickthebassist said:
This stuff about a chimp being able to rip you to pieces is wrong. They are stronger than us pound for pound, but don't forget we're about twice their size. A strong adult human would beat off a chimp. It's its teeth you ought to be worried about. And don't import one, buy one from a registered breeder.

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Experts in primate behavior told The Associated Press last week that male chimpanzees in the wild are intensely territorial and often are violent, sometimes killing chimps from neighboring groups. A typical chimp weighs between 120 and 150 pounds and is much stronger than a human.
 
Nickthebassist said:
This stuff about a chimp being able to rip you to pieces is wrong. They are stronger than us pound for pound, but don't forget we're about twice their size. A strong adult human would beat off a chimp. It's its teeth you ought to be worried about. And don't import one, buy one from a registered breeder.

Tell that to the kid my sister (who has her degree in primate studies) used to work (at a primate research facility) with who was attacked by a chimp after throwing orange peels at it. His arm wasn't ripped clean off, but the chimp jerked him around by it hard enough to cause several compound fractures. And it bit him too.

They aren't just stronger than us pound for pound, an adult male chimp is stronger than most adult humans. They can easily lift several times their own weight and have limbs designed for wrenching and pulling (to get at food), not just carrying. Chimps can seriously mess you up.

bassturtle said:
I appreciate all the info, but like I asked - anyone here actually own one?

No, I put monkeys in the same category as wild cats: animals that are cool to watch but do not belong in the company of people. The ones who are OK in captivity are the exception, not the rule, and I think its pretty sad and pathetic that people still fee the need to "own" them. Some of my sister's stories of what the chimps and monkeys they rescued went through are disgusting, and how anyone could look at these creatures as animals is beyond me.

Another story: part of my sister's thesis involved working with chimps who'd been taught sign language. They have varying degrees of facility with it, but the most advance can converse about at the level of young child, sometimes more so. Note I said "converse" not communicate. I never grasped the difference until I heard this.

About halfway through her field work my sister's boss and thesis advisor had a miscarrige and was out of work for a month. Being the longest and most familliar employee the chimps missed her a great deal. One of the chimps, the oldest female of the group, had suffered a still born pregnancy the year before.

One her first day back this chimp came to her in the enclosure and signed "No play?", her way of saying "Where have you been?". The woman signed "Sick, I lost my baby".

The chimp climbed up, wrapped her arms around her neck and hugged her. The she signed "Sad, I lost my baby too".

This goes beyond simple communicating "I want food". This is real empathy and emotion, from a species people think belongs in cute outfits for our amusment.

Anyone still think they are just animals?
 
Tash said:
I'm going to guess your uncle was a tad stronger than an average human....oh wait you said a Mini, hell my cat can life a Mini :)
A mini still weights around 750Kg(the old, PROPPER ones anyhow, the new imposter ones are about a ton). He could put his arm on a fence that was as tall as him, and vault over it one handed. Don't tell me he wasn't strong.
 
Tash said:
Another story: part of my sister's thesis involved working with chimps who'd been taught sign language. They have varying degrees of facility with it, but the most advance can converse about at the level of young child, sometimes more so. Note I said "converse" not communicate. I never grasped the difference until I heard this.

About halfway through her field work my sister's boss and thesis advisor had a miscarrige and was out of work for a month. Being the longest and most familliar employee the chimps missed her a great deal. One of the chimps, the oldest female of the group, had suffered a still born pregnancy the year before.

One her first day back this chimp came to her in the enclosure and signed "No play?", her way of saying "Where have you been?". The woman signed "Sick, I lost my baby".

The chimp climbed up, wrapped her arms around her neck and hugged her. The she signed "Sad, I lost my baby too".

This goes beyond simple communicating "I want food". This is real empathy and emotion, from a species people think belongs in cute outfits for our amusment.

Anyone still think they are just animals?

Fascinating. I love to round up some of the more cognitively advanced signing specimens, and ask them some questions of a philosophical nature.....might be illuminating.
 
jazzbo said:
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Yup, this was big news around here in Los Angeles. I work 5 minutes from West Covina where the couple is from, and I bowl there.

Man, that guys was seriously messed up. Like, stuff happened to him that is almost unspeakable. *shudders* No matter who tells you what, any animal that is capable of doing harm and can do so at any time. Funny, I say this same thing about humans... :hmm:
 

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