I wrote: "I'd say that's a little too much...", reflecting my opinion. So for some players it may be just fine. For me, however, a little too much tension.
It's also imaginable that some basses may suffer from a total tension of 200 pounds.
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Petition for heavy gauge Chromes
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I wrote: "I'd say that's a little too much...", reflecting my opinion. So for some players it may be just fine. For me, however, a little too much tension.
It's also imaginable that some basses may suffer from a total tension of 200 pounds.
I have played the .050 .070 .085 .105 set with a .110 single. I used it exclusively for drop D. It worked well, but I found the .105 is good enough.
Would anyone else like to see D'Addario make their flatwound Chromes strings in heavy gauge? Something like:
.50 - .70 - .90 - .110"
Thanx,
-mac
Seriously? That's heavy? The top half is from the "medium" set. If you're going to go heavy, then go all the way. I want a Chromes set in: .055 .075 .090 .110.
That, and I want their medium set made available in Super Long Scale Plus.
I think that is the only solution to the diverging needs of the bass players.
I for one would like to try a .045-.060-.080-.110(or even .115), (a pretty even tension on the first 3 strings with the possibility to drop D tune the deepest string without sloppy tension) but that is a difficult set to come by.
Well, according to d'Addarios own tension chart, that set would have the following tensions (standard EADG tuning):
.055 - 65.2
.075 - (off the chart for a D tuning), approximately 68 from extrapolation
.090 - 62.7
.110 - 46.0
That is a seriously unbalanced set, and I would dread having to handle that .075 string. That is an insane amount of tension. Conversely, I fail to see why people are dreading that .110 string. It is seriously low on tension compared with the rest of the set. For such a heavy set as the one above, you need at least a .120 string.
Fact: Most standard sets out there have an over-tensioned D-string and an under-tensioned E-string compared to the average for the set. Just check the charts.
The latter is a real obstacle for tuning the E-string any lower without getting that sloppy feel with the muddled sound.
I read somewhere about the tensions being uneven in that manner due to the way amps were made (or still being made) so the vibrations or frequencies of some matter handle well or something like so. I read the thread last year and I am far too lazy to look it up again.
As for a .075 "D" flatwound, Ernie Ball Group I and Rotosound 77 LE/SH (Steve Harris) sets both have them. The La Bella 1954 Original (James Jamerson) set comes close wielding a .073 "D" string. I've tried all but the Jamerson set, and a "D" string of that gauge is manageable, no where near insane so as long as a neck can handle it.
As for a .075 "D" flatwound, Ernie Ball Group I and Rotosound 77 LE/SH (Steve Harris) sets both have them. The La Bella 1954 Original (James Jamerson) set comes close wielding a .073 "D" string. I've tried all but the Jamerson set, and a "D" string of that gauge is manageable, no where near insane so as long as a neck can handle it.
A pity. I have never seen any reasonable explanation for the seemingly random tension chosen in "standard" string sets, and would really like to know.PBnJBassist said:
To me this seems as reasonable as the placement of keys on a QWERTY keyboard (which was partly chosen to make typists type slower).
Im in! I'd love a heavier gauge set of Chromes. They're my string of choice, but I have considered trying the Jamerson LaBellas to get a heavier gauge.
This is the thread I was referring to:
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f16/balanced-vs-unbalanced-tension-797985/
Now, this is from what other members have said about the subject. No articles or anything on the matter written in stone by people wearing white lab coats, but it did provided a bit of substance.
PS: I work a graveyard shift, so when I wrote that response, I woke up just to order more strings from Jason & drop in TB to read a bit. Many apologies on this since I "TRY" to be good on these forums.
I'm in on this!
I register as wanting more gauge options for Chromes, heavy gauge chromes in 4 or 5 would bring new single strings so that's a good thing.
Also i want to see new singles in .025 .028 etc.
I can't seem to find bright flexy steel flats anywhere else, i am currently dependant on Chromes for fretless. Please DAddario offer a wider range of singles and make all singles available!
I register as wanting more gauge options for Chromes, heavy gauge chromes in 4 or 5 would bring new single strings so that's a good thing.
Also i want to see new singles in .025 .028 etc.
I can't seem to find bright flexy steel flats anywhere else, i am currently dependant on Chromes for fretless. Please DAddario offer a wider range of singles and make all singles available!
Where did you get the .110?
And bumping this thread. Would love it if D'addario made a heavy set, would love it even more if they sold singles in all gauges.
I think D'Addario used to sell singles all the way from .040 up to .110, then the .130 for a B string.
Chromes already have too much tension. The .105 set is too much for me. I like the .100 guage set though.
If you want a heavier gauge without too much tension get the LaBella Deep Talkin' Flats (the one just lighter than the Jamerson's).
If you want a heavier gauge without too much tension get the LaBella Deep Talkin' Flats (the one just lighter than the Jamerson's).
Yeah, PBnJ I agree with your gauge choices - or even 55, 75, 95, 115 seems like where I'm headed. A440. Yeah, I must be crazy. I'm gonna have a Popeye left arm...
I don't quite understand what the problem with high tension is. If you have an allen wrench kicking around and adjust your neck / action properly then I don't see what the big deal is. I can press down my 'fat' strings with a velvet touch. Unless it's a tone thing in which case that's subjective and personal and I understand.
Right now I'm using 50 - 110 Boomers and it's hot and humid as hell where I live and my VMJ Bass neck is doing just fine.
So, anywho, I'd like to hear some opinions / comments about the high tension thing....
-thanx
I don't quite understand what the problem with high tension is. If you have an allen wrench kicking around and adjust your neck / action properly then I don't see what the big deal is. I can press down my 'fat' strings with a velvet touch. Unless it's a tone thing in which case that's subjective and personal and I understand.
Right now I'm using 50 - 110 Boomers and it's hot and humid as hell where I live and my VMJ Bass neck is doing just fine.
So, anywho, I'd like to hear some opinions / comments about the high tension thing....
-thanx
