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Phil Spector, Dead at 81
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Wow, I hadn't heard that one in years. What an amazing recording. It is so dense and yet so transparent at the same time...And the mix, the way the instruments take turns at the fore, is mind-blowingly well-executed, right down to the rumbling end drums that turn into a car and motor away.
He was just the first guy who figured out you could layer things using what was then brand new technology of multitrack recording. Wouldn't have taken a genius to figure any of that out; someone else would have done it a week later. He's no genius, but he did lay claim to being the first and was good at self-promotion.
Phil Spector was a genius and doubt anyone else could have done what he did, he did lot of his stuff with two and three track machines. He would have 2 or 3 drummers playing, with 2 or or 3 bassists, 4 guitarist etc.
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It's literally what any high school kid with a decent computer can do now. He was just the first to think of it. His genius was at self-promotion. He gave it a name, and he convinced other well-known artists that he was the guy who could best produce their records, so he got associated with a bunch of big names.
As a full disclosure, I never cared for the "wall of sound" technique and I always thought his stuff sounded sloppy, despite the agony he put musicians through trying to get to some level of perfection that existed only in his own head. But if others think that was genius, I'm not going to argue. We all have different taste. But what no one can argue with is that he tormented his ex-wife and shot a woman in the mouth. He wasn't some icon that deserves so much as a mention in any serious discussion.
Like everybody else......I'm torn..
Such a legacy....but such infamy....
Hmmmmm.....
Such a legacy....but such infamy....
Hmmmmm.....
I don't think your opinion is very widely held, maybe you weren't around back then to realize how lightyears ahead of everyone else he was? Drugs and alcohol destroyed him yes, but you can't deny his talent, he influenced most of the great producers back then including Brian Wilson. I think that perfection that "existed only in his own head" is plain to hear for most people.
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I'm probably as old as you are, or close to it. I know what I hear, which is mainly a lot of slop. People like Brian Wilson took his ideas and made them sound good. I won't take away from him that he was first, and that was profoundly influential. But his productions were not nearly as good as he's given credit for. Just my unpopular opinion.
OK, well you're welcome to your unpopular opinion but please don't ruin it for the rest of us. There is a lot of stuff I really don't like either that others think is fantastic but I usually don't rain on other people's parades.
I'm sorry? Don't ruin it for the rest of us? Y'all are celebrating a wife-beating murderer and you're telling the only woman in the conversation to not ruin it for you? I don't even have a response to that other than the celebration of this sociopath makes me sick to my stomach and I'm retiring from this conversation.
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And OJ was a great running back.
On the morning of February 3, 2003, American actress Lana Clarkson was found dead in the Pyrenees Castle, the Alhambra, Californiamansion of record producer Phil Spector. In the early hours of that morning, Clarkson had met Spector while working at the House of Blues in Los Angeles. After leaving in Spector's limousine, the two were driven to Spector's mansion and went inside while his driver waited in the car.[1] About an hour later, the driver heard a gunshot before Spector exited his house through the back door with a gun. He was quoted as saying, according to affidavits, "I think I just shot her."[1] Spector later said Clarkson's death was an "accidental suicide" and that she "kissed the gun".[2]
On the morning of February 3, 2003, American actress Lana Clarkson was found dead in the Pyrenees Castle, the Alhambra, Californiamansion of record producer Phil Spector. In the early hours of that morning, Clarkson had met Spector while working at the House of Blues in Los Angeles. After leaving in Spector's limousine, the two were driven to Spector's mansion and went inside while his driver waited in the car.[1] About an hour later, the driver heard a gunshot before Spector exited his house through the back door with a gun. He was quoted as saying, according to affidavits, "I think I just shot her."[1] Spector later said Clarkson's death was an "accidental suicide" and that she "kissed the gun".[2]
We'll miss you and we're not celebrating a "wife beating murderer" We're celebrating a world renowned celebrated producer who lost his way through drugs and alcohol, could happen to anyone of us here.
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I would say his credits speak for themselves. I think some people might argue the sloppiness of the White Album. But hey, everyone has an opinion.
Here Are the Major Awards Phil Spector Won During His Career.
Phil Spector - Wikipedia.
Ever read Geoff Emerick's book, evidently those sessions were a mess and Phil was lucky to get anything out of them at that point.
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