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Double Bass Pickup comparison... for you gear junkies

Tom Lane

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Apr 28, 2011
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This morning I went over to Adam Cohen's and we spent a couple of hours A+B-ing our pickups. Adam has a B-Band pickup. Checking their website, I see that they've discontinued this offering and it sounds like they had a few different configurations, so, I'm not sure which one Adam has now, I'll have to ask him.

My bass came with a Full Circle and I added an Ischell contact mic; the two feeding into a Headway EDB-2 pre-amp. I also recently bought a Headway Band pickup as a backup after hearing it at the Aebersold camp and finding the tone better than most.

The good news, is I think Adam and I both agreed that all 4 pickups sound very good and we're really happy that there are so many great amplification options available today. The pickups tend to cut through better - more punch - than the Ischell, but the Ischell does indeed sound very MBOL on my bass through the EDB-2 using the +Hi impedance setting. And we agreed that the best tone was blending the Ischell with a pickup. Which pickup is up for debate because they all sounded good going through the EDB-2 with very minor differences. The Band sounded very good but had much lower output so it won't go as loud as the Full Circle or B-Band. That could be because it's tough to get it tight enough around the bass; maybe sliding in a spacer after I've secured the velcro might help. Better yet, Headway could provide a ratcheting mechanism to improve the contact. The Full Circle and B-Band were pretty comparable, IMO, both cut through the mix very nicely with good presence. The Band was a bit more present above the octave in TP, which might be desirable for a bassist who likes to solo in TP a lot. We also found that Adam's B-Band sounded noticeably better going through the EDB-2 with +Hi impedance than going directly into his AI amp and after I left I remembered that Don Kasper, who has the same pickup, uses an FDeck before his Walter Woods. It seems as though that makes an easily noticeable improvement, so strike one for Kasper, but there's no reason to tell him...

We realized we rarely get to compare so much gear because of the expense so we thought it worth posting our findings.

I find, for many gigs, I just use my Full Circle direct into an amp with high impedance and find the tone unobjectionable. If I'm being finicky, I'll opt for Ischell by itself but in a larger ensemble or very live room, I usually wind up blending in the Full Circle to better hear myself. YMMVAEEGMWCBs.

Fuel to the GAS, sorry in advance, and don't tell your SO it's MY fault!

Ah, PS, all sounded great both arco and pizz - there was no need to adjust anything when switching which can be an issue with some pickups.
 
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AFAIK - B-Band IS still making/selling this latest version of their bass pickup, the D1 Double Bass System - (I use this pickup)
D1-DoubleBass.jpg


There was an earlier version: which has not been available for some time.
The B-Band Statement System Model STM-SYS

After manufacturing the Statement (STM-SYS) double bass system for 10 years B-Band have stopped production of this model. Full details of this discontinued model are not available.
 
AFAIK - B-Band IS still making/selling this latest version of their bass pickup, the D1 Double Bass System - (I use this pickup)
View attachment 2166784

There was an earlier version: which has not been available for some time.
The B-Band Statement System Model STM-SYS

After manufacturing the Statement (STM-SYS) double bass system for 10 years B-Band have stopped production of this model. Full details of this discontinued model are not available.

You have 4 sensors similar to the photo? Two under the bridge feet and two in the wings?
 
You have 4 sensors similar to the photo? Two under the bridge feet and two in the wings?
Nyet, Tomrade!
The photo shows "3" sensors/elements - 1 under the bridge foot, 2 in the wings. Within the barrel of the jack (reddish color in photo) is a small circuit board with a tiny adjustable potentiometer(?) that allows you to pan or mix/blend the foot element vs. the wing elements signal.
FYI - I have found the bridge foot element to be undesirable and unnecessary (muddy!!) on my bass, and so I use only a SINGLE WING element (on the E side), and I have the mix panned to FULL WING capability. I have plenty of low-end presence with a nice thin schmear of mid/high clarity. I favor a darker sound palette than most - I will sometimes need to bring my WW Treble nearly UP TO Flat, in boomy rooms, but mostly I like to stay with a warm, round sound, as long as it is compact and even. (I think I'm Dancing About Architecture again...)
Thanks for your interest.
 
Nyet, Tomrade!
The photo shows "3" sensors/elements - 1 under the bridge foot, 2 in the wings. Within the barrel of the jack (reddish color in photo) is a small circuit board with a tiny adjustable potentiometer(?) that allows you to pan or mix/blend the foot element vs. the wing elements signal.
FYI - I have found the bridge foot element to be undesirable and unnecessary (muddy!!) on my bass, and so I use only a SINGLE WING element (on the E side), and I have the mix panned to FULL WING capability. I have plenty of low-end presence with a nice thin schmear of mid/high clarity. I favor a darker sound palette than most - I will sometimes need to bring my WW Treble nearly UP TO Flat, in boomy rooms, but mostly I like to stay with a warm, round sound, as long as it is compact and even. (I think I'm Dancing About Architecture again...)
Thanks for your interest.

Inneresting. Certainly sounded very good in the Vibrato Grill...
 
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Tom and I had a terrific time checking under the hood and kicking the tires of several pickups with & without a very high-end preamp. (Forgot the name of it).

I use the B-Band D1 with all the elements in place. I set the pan pot at around 1:00; slightly towards the body pickup. Combined with the AI Clarus, I have found this to be the best recipe for the sound I'm striving for. (Thus far, anyway).

I'm also a big fan of Zyex strings - medium gauge - and believe they work well with the above mentioned gear towards achieving the sound I'm going for. On a physical level, they also feel really good.

At the end of the day, there are so many variables at play when finding the recipe for a sound you like. And, as Tom pointed out, we are fortunate to be in a time when the choices are more numerable than ever.

So much easier, as has always been the case, when you start with a good sounding axe with a good setup.

Here's to spending good times with good people.
 
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