Pignose Replacement Batteries

[PaulMacCnj]

I have a Pignose Hog 30 combo that is in need of new batteries. The current ones don't hold a charge anymore. The Pignose website has the set of 2 - 6 volt lead-acid batteries for $50. I found like rated lead-acid batteries on other websites for as little as $16 for 2. At 1/3 the price, I'd like to get the better deal. I'm assuming that there won't be any incompatibility with the charging circuit, correct?

 

[PaulMacCnj]

Bump

 

[pbd]

should work okay, are they the same batteries? I've bought cheap batteries before and found that they don't hold a charge as well. I suppose it would be worth the risk to save some $$

my 2 cents,
Todd

 

[BrentSimons]

I had a Hog 30 once and ordered batteries directly from Pignose no problem but yes expensive. It really isn't something you want to skimp on though, especially if the "other brand" leaks or something, might ruin the amp. Not likely but a possibility.
B

 

[BassmanPaul]

As long as the specs for the batteries are the same or better they should work fine. What you need to be sure of is that the new batteries you buy are fresh. NOS here doesn't count.

Paul

 

[Jeff K]

Just curious - how long did the original batteries last on the Hog? I'm thinking about getting one.

 

[Jonesy]

Just curious - how long did the original batteries last on the Hog? I'm thinking about getting one.

I have had a Hog 30 for 9-10 years or so. I recall the original batteries failed in about 2 years. I replaced them with whatever "Batteries Plus" had in stock and they are still going strong 7-8 years later. I tend to use the amp maybe once or twice a month for low volume band rehearsals and camping trips and I try to remember to throw it on the charger every few months. It's been a good amp. Very handy to have. To me, it sounds much better when I run my Sans-amp bass driver in front of it. A friend of mine bought a Hog-30 about a year after I did and still runs the original batteries. He doesn't use his as much as I use mine though.

 

[Jeff K]

Not to sidetrack this thread, but I went in to G.C. today to buy a Hog 30. Because it wasn't in stock, I would have had to pay shipping on it.

Long story short, I walked out with a Roland Micro Cube instead. I only had a chance to mess with it for about 45 minutes, but so far, I'm fairly impressed with it. My problem today though is that I have ear infections from a nasty cold, and everything sounds muffled. So I won't really have a good appreciation for how this thing sounds until my hearing gets back to normal.

Early observations are that the drum machine options are pretty cool. The tuner sucks, but other than that it's a good practice amp. I'll keep it in my computer room for when I want to work on something on YouTube, etc. Also, so that when I travel I'll have something compact that can be plugged in or run off of batteries. Don't know how the battery life will be. I think it said 8-11 hours (6 AA's).

 

[jrmont]

I volunteered to replace the chassis mount DC connector on a friend’s Hog 30 and now I am scratching my head over how to remove front or back panels without damaging the skins. I have every screw removed and the panels do not budge. It almost appears that there is glue in the seam. If you have replaced batteries, you must have gotten beyond this point. Can you advise on how to remove the chassis?

 

[T-Bird]

Hi.

I volunteered to replace the chassis mount DC connector on a friend’s Hog 30 and now I am scratching my head over how to remove front or back panels without damaging the skins.

If it's the rear panel You're trying to remove, tap the panel to work the sticky vinyl covering loose. You may also have to screw in a larger diameter screw(s) into the panels hole(s) so You have something to pull from.

Regards
Sam

 

[jrmont]

Thanks for the response Sam. This one needed more than a tap. The pig skin covering was really stuck together. I carefully broke through the "sticky" in the seams on the back panel with a paint scraper and got the back off. Then Howard at Pignose responded to recommend soaking the seam of the front panel with Windex for about 10 minutes. I took his advice and put some outward pressure on the sides of the cabinet to let it flow into the seams. I had to repeat the process a few times and eventually the front panel came free. No way it was coming out without that chemical coercion.

 

[locorogue]

I have a Pignose Hog 30 combo that is in need of new batteries

I just scored the same amp, the local music store salesman rushes over to me and gives %20 off, i said SOLD!!! Well come to find out the batts are deaded(what a douche). I go to the local battery seller and picked up a 12v battery...the Pignose Hog 30 uses two 6v batts. The life on my new battery is almost two times the life of the factory batteries, so potentially 12+ hours of use? Will test this week, and give feedback. So far so good though...if you're interested, or anyone else, let me know, and i'll upload pics of the mod i did to accommodate the larger single battery, which was around the same weight as the two originals, so no worries there. Also, the two single batteries, like the original, are going to cost close to $50 bucks, i've searched high and low, my new single, more life battery...$30...DEAL

 

[locorogue]

FWIW, i just busked all day today with this amp(new battery), sounded stellar first off, second, the battery is still running strong, had it on battery yesterday all day when i was just messing around at home...

 

[Munjibunga]

FWIW, i just busked all day today with this amp(new battery), sounded stellar first off, second, the battery is still running strong, had it on battery yesterday all day when i was just messing around at home...

I was going to say that I hope the two original 6-volt batteries run in series if you're putting a 12-volt battery in to replace them.

 

[locorogue]

I was going to say that I hope the two original 6-volt batteries run in series if you're putting a 12-volt battery in to replace them.

Yup. The two originals just have a jumper from one to the other. And i would say the single weighs as much as the original two together...another bonus

 

[RCCollins]

...if you're interested, or anyone else, let me know, and i'll upload pics of the mod i did to accommodate the larger single battery, which was around the same weight as the two originals, so no worries there.

I just discovered the battery on mine was dead, so yes I'm very interested in pics of your mod!

 

[Ed Stokes]

Hi.



If it's the rear panel You're trying to remove, tap the panel to work the sticky vinyl covering loose. You may also have to screw in a larger diameter screw(s) into the panels hole(s) so You have something to pull from.

Regards
Sam

Just replaced batteries on my Hog 30. As someone suggested, Windex works great to loosen sticky seams. Here's a picture with the back panel off (5 screws) and the wooden upper battery support off (2 screws on each side).

 

[expatmuso]

My hog 30 just died and I'm not sure if the problem is the battery or something else. The light shows yellow, but there is no sound coming out of the amp at all. I tested the battery and there is enough juice to light a light bulb. I've charged it for a long time and it doesn't go past yellow, i.e. it never turns green.

Anyone have any ideas?

 

[BogeyBass]

Will the amp work if you disconnect the battery and just use the a.c. power supply. if the battery won't take a charge It's probably bad. it might be producing enough voltage to light a low current bulb. but under load the voltage drops. probably a bad cell in the battery. the amp sounds like it has low voltage shut off protection. which is smart cause draining lead acid battery to low will damage the battery. so if a cell or 2 goes bad in the battery Then yeah that amp isn't gonna turn on. probably replace the
battery. there is a certain percentage of charge/voltage a battery will show. so a voltage meter reading of the battery is a better test than a bulb. And since the status light doesn't change color, which is basically reading the
battery voltage. it's probably a dead
battery. the charging system is ddesigned for a lead acid 12 volt battery. or basically 2 6volts in series. replace with same battery type a sealed glass mat lead acid. you can do what others have done and buy a higher capacitance 12 volt. a bigger battery is ok. it just needs to be a sealed glass mat lead acid.

 

[expatmuso]

Thanks for your response BogeyBass. Yeah the battery light is still on and it can power a small light bulb. So I guess I'll try changing the battery.