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PJ Club

Bravo @Double E enjoy retirement haha!

@aah_scary that aerodyne is sweet looking! Does the binding bother you forearm at all?

I used to use both pickups full on everything like @SteveCS but now go from one to the other and a mix. I think I prefer the neck, but then again I prefer the neck pup on my jazz.

Binding doesn't bother me, but then again, I did most of my learning on it. :)

And yeah, definitely prefer the neck pickup. But can't really go wrong with both on full. :P
 
I've been kinda bouncing between genres and projects lately, from Indy-Rock to straight ahead rock to Jazz/Blues. What amazes me with the PJ5's that I have is that all I really need to do is change strings and I am totally covered with a not just an appropriate tone, but a killer tone. I go from flats to rounds to tapes as needed and it always works and I almost always get compliments on the tone. Love these PJ's!
 
I've been kinda bouncing between genres and projects lately, from Indy-Rock to straight ahead rock to Jazz/Blues. What amazes me with the PJ5's that I have is that all I really need to do is change strings and I am totally covered with a not just an appropriate tone, but a killer tone. I go from flats to rounds to tapes as needed and it always works and I almost always get compliments on the tone. Love these PJ's!

That's one of the things that keeps me from really using any of my other basses for gigs. It's also making me a little nervous about the bass I'm building...I want to cop other tones too, but I don't know if I'll be able to fit a P & J pup.

Binding doesn't bother me, but then again, I did most of my learning on it. :)

And yeah, definitely prefer the neck pickup. But can't really go wrong with both on full. :p

That's encouraging, I've been interested in one of those aerodynes for a while but was unsure if the sharper edge would bother me.
 
That's encouraging, I've been interested in one of those aerodynes for a while but was unsure if the sharper edge would bother me.

Only if you lean heavily onto the top edge of the body. If so, you'll have to get used to elevating your elbow enough so it's gently resting there, not digging in deeply. It might take a bit of time to get into that habit, but I don't think it's impossible to adapt. ;)
 
Only if you lean heavily onto the top edge of the body. If so, you'll have to get used to elevating your elbow enough so it's gently resting there, not digging in deeply. It might take a bit of time to get into that habit, but I don't think it's impossible to adapt. ;)

We all get cosy with our axes but a "floating" right hand, or one grounded at the bridge area (while implementing palm muting) is preferable physiologically. The 'break' point forearm resting on the edge of (any) bout of the bass is detrimental over time. (or so what I've read)
 
I have to say, that is about the prettiest Aerodyne I've seen. Maybe it's the blue color. Almost makes me want to get one... or start more ruthless hacking on my next PJ project body.

I know right?

We all get cosy with our axes but a "floating" right hand, or one grounded at the bridge area (while implementing palm muting) is preferable physiologically. The 'break' point forearm resting on the edge of (any) bout of the bass is detrimental over time. (or so what I've read)

Thanks for the tips Jio and @Malak the Mad I appreciate the advice. Never knew that resting my forearm on the bass is bad. I don't always, but I frequently do.
 
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Thanks for the tips Jio and @Malak the Mad I appreciate the advice. Never knew that resting my forearm on the bass is bad. I don't always, but I frequently do.

No worries. Besides, I tend to lean a bit more than I probably should when I'm not using my 'Dyne. I should probably put it to more use to rebuild a proper muscle memory and posture.
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Update for everyone, including current numbers, etc...

The PJ club has to do with pickup config, not bodystyle, construction or number of strings. Humbuckers in the ‘J’ position count. This thread is all about sharing and enhancing the experiences of what a P/J config brings to us as players in a respectful, helpful environment. Slobbering over pictures of basses posted in this thread is highly encouraged.

As the creators have decreed, so shall it be followed: There will be but two rules to comply with in order to become a member:
  1. You must post a picture of your bass with a PJ pickup configuration, any body style is acceptable.
  2. You must ask for a number in the post or send me a private message (G On Bass). If you post a pic but don't ask for a number, it will be assumed that you don't want one.
  3. There is no rule 3
All members are members for life unless they ask to be removed.

P/J CLUB as of 04/08/2017

  1. Gorn Captain
  2. SunnBass
  3. snyderz
  4. Doctor K
  5. wild4oldcars
  6. StereoPlayer
  7. Luckydog
  8. Malak the Mad
  9. Fernando Costa
  10. GBassNorth
  11. Double E
  12. G On Bass (P/J Club Number assigner)
  13. Rocken17
  14. Atomic Cow
  15. ExaltBass
  16. Rip Topaz
  17. dedpool1052
  18. ambissonnett
  19. Apolicious
  20. brokenstoned
  21. DocGeorge
  22. JIO
  23. frankieC
  24. DerekW
  25. bassthumpersf
  26. jdy
  27. JimmyM
  28. Classic69
  29. khutch
  30. kzr750r1
  31. Giorgetto
  32. srcTW
  33. theNecatoR
  34. spiritbass
  35. wyleeboxer
  36. psp742
  37. zacmac
  38. AndyMan
  39. Technotitclan
  40. RedMoses
  41. Jiker75
  42. Shanebo
  43. Templar
  44. ebozz
  45. rujulian
  46. KeithAlanK
  47. God’s Favorite Bass
  48. topcat2069
  49. inframan
  50. CTC564
  51. Bassbubble11
  52. Classic69
  53. makaspar
  54. Charley Umbria
  55. BassHappy
  56. Maxdusty
  57. mouthmw
  58. MAJOR METAL
  59. Jamesray740
  60. wolfmancharlie
  61. Damonjames
  62. monkeybass68
  63. rujulian
  64. dave_bass5
  65. Down_Low
  66. Amara
  67. Doug Parent
  68. Kirk Bryant
  69. reddog
  70. LagBox
  71. Coolhandjjl
  72. brenner182
  73. newyorkiddo
  74. FacelessBeard
  75. A-Step-Towards
  76. IanA
  77. RedHotFuzz
  78. atomicdog
  79. Just Fingered
  80. chuck norriss
  81. pinz
  82. Chef
  83. Hank Scorpio
  84. NorCal Dog
  85. devinp17
  86. Fxpmusic
  87. bass_case
  88. Instagator
  89. mojomike001
  90. MasterMonkeyMan
  91. Sputnik Monroe
  92. Smallequestrian
  93. TimWatson
  94. Ken J
  95. Awesomesauce57
  96. reddavid
  97. Haji
  98. pgolliher
  99. Gyver
  100. bray101
  101. jamersonburton
  102. peterpalmieri
  103. Maxdusty
  104. moishelichtfuss
  105. tomersg
  106. Grand Moff Tim
  107. Thornton Davis
  108. StrangerDanger
  109. tastybasslines
  110. ResponseRx
  111. CrashGordon
  112. Thebrownarrow
  113. nilpla
  114. Fuzmaster
  115. Back2Bass
  116. Dgl44
  117. bassmusic17
  118. mrb327
  119. MSGNoff
  120. jstar
  121. OutToPlayJazz
  122. Icculus
  123. tangentmusic
  124. dewbass4
  125. Big Hoss
  126. AuBassMan
  127. Tbone76
  128. AnalogKid4003
  129. Flashgod
  130. Shardik
  131. gunlak
  132. BumeStik.
  133. And I
  134. EclecticLady
  135. marko138
  136. Marko5657
  137. AREA
  138. bass4worship
  139. _jaxon5
  140. 99Z3
  141. Thundar
  142. 142 WRM
  143. ksm
  144. Available
  145. SteveCS
  146. Dams
  147. bassclef112
  148. Hounddog409
  149. mysteryclock
  150. HalfManHalfBass
  151. Jguess85
  152. gadgetgirl
  153. exidor
  154. vanderbrook
  155. Buzz E
  156. gjbassist
  157. R.I.P.
  158. RiZzoy
  159. Bollenator
  160. 2cooltoolz
  161. Feralhog
  162. BigDanT
  163. gimmeagig
  164. FourBanger
  165. ack
  166. Nev375
  167. superdick2112
  168. stonewall
  169. gsgbass
  170. Edmang
  171. Novarocker
  172. madjazzbass
  173. 39-Bassist
  174. Rocker47
  175. davy4575
  176. Aahzz
  177. Jonahlane
  178. JRA
  179. BassJuju
  180. TB24
  181. OldFunBass
  182. crucislancer
  183. alotabass
  184. Mark76
  185. Mktrat
  186. scuzzy
  187. ScottfromCalgary
  188. PeaveyPlayer
  189. aah_scary
 
I know right?



Thanks for the tips Jio and @Malak the Mad I appreciate the advice. Never knew that resting my forearm on the bass is bad. I don't always, but I frequently do.

It really comes down to avoiding an unnatural bend in ones wrist over many years of playing I think. Of course every bass player will rest their arm on the edge occasionally depending on their mood or whatever - it's more avoiding detrimental chronic/repetitive positioning. By 'floating' you're using the muscles in your forearm more dynamically (and actually giving your hand more freedom to articulate) and if palm muting (I use this technique quite a lot) your wrist is lightly resting on the bridge area. Because of this I'm very picky about bridges as they need to be 'interface friendly' - no rough or sharp bits. I love the retro look of bridge covers on P's and J's but only for photo-ops. I do have a neck pu cover on one of my J as I'm more likely to play at the bridge and rarely play at the neck. Everyone has their own style so there isn't one 'right' way - it's all about what you create with whatever technique used.
 
it's been some time since I post in PJ club.. i just remember the headless bass i acquired has PJ pickups, so i share pictures here too.
PICTURES:
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80s mach1 headless bass

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headless bass is relic'd when i got her, i restore her as best i could and had my guitar tech install SS frets.

This bass is neck thru and has great sustain.. the pickups are a big surprise for me.. i was going to upgrade them to Guitar Fetish PRO series PJ 16k 10k respectively but changed my mind.. this bass is BAAADDDD!!!
 
Recently acquired a 72 PBass that had been routed for a PJ setup. Had a friend open up the route a bit for a 3-way blade switch, just got round to wiring it up Tony Franklin style this morning.
Put a Nordy NP4 in the P position and so far I've kept the old EMG J that was in the bridge position.
Thinking about going for an EMG geezer PJ set though if I can get a hold of the buss for the solderless wires.

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I sifted through this thread and discovered I hadn't posted my P/J-related findings and updates, so here I am remedying that oversight.

Last year, I had some additional routing done to my "Projekt Blue" parts-bass. Originally, I had used a Blacktop Jazz pickguard as a J/J-to-P/J conversion template.

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Of all the split-coil-bearing Jazz basses I've encountered, the Blacktop's neck pickup placement is the closest to the neck pocket, while the Aerodyne is a smidgen closer to the bridge. However, after reading @Reggie Hamilton post to a TB thread about the engineering put into the placement of his signature Jazz's neck pup, I decided to give it a go.

Thanks to the fine people at WD Music, I got myself a reproduction of a Reggie-sig pickguard and had it routed out a bit more, as seen below…
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In my final analysis, I can say without reservation that between the Aerodyne, Blacktop Jazz and the Reggie Hamilton Jazz, Reggie's has my favorite pickup placement. The growl and grind of the others are quite excellent and give them their own, distinctive sound, but if you're looking for that classic, fat, Precision sound in a Jazz package, a Reggie-sig should be high on your list of considerations.
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On a related note…I'm giving some thought of doing a similar conversion to a Classic '70s Jazz. I'm rather curious how the deep, Precision "thump" will blend with the extra "growl" of a bridge pup in the seventies-position.
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Of all the Fender factory PJs based on the J body, the Reggie Hamilton model has the P pup about as close as possible to the actual P-bass location, without cutting through the bridge side of the J pickguard.

Crazy (mad?) as I am, I am sorely tempted to acquire an Am Deluxe Jazz V, and hack it for a P pup in the Reggie location, for a poor man's RHV wanna be. I might do that, right after I hatch my current scheme to transplant an Am Deluxe P neck onto a non-Deluxe P body (with PJ pups, of course).
 
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If certain Fender folklore is correct, it's funny how the much sought-after extra-growly "70's J pu bridge position" was born. Apparently (as one of the more accepted versions go) the CBS suits thought the upper tabs on the bridge pu peeking above the ashtray was not (visually) "neat" enough for their tight sphincters and had it lowered to hide completely under the large F cover. "...what (they thought) difference could that possibly make?" Maybe that's not a fact, (I read it, but that as you know does not necessarily make it a fact) but it definitely sounds like something that could have occurred under the new corporate (clueless) structure that was CBS back then. Any ex-CBS executives (now on tb :laugh:) from that era who recall anything remotely concerned w/Fender R&D can verify or deny this "myth". I'll hold...
 
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Here's my humble submission! I got this guy about a month ago, and it plays like butter. The photo makes it much more purple than reality, which is much closer to a burgundy mist.


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I'm a fan of BMM on Fender (and otherwise/other brands) basses/guitars but a J ashtray on a P is ONLY for a photo-op in my book. (same with J's) - it takes up WAY too much valuable (articulating/playing) real estate. I personally play at the bridge on my P's and J's, a lot. (palm muting etc) Looks cool but bridge covers are for photo-ops only! (of course, YOMV) ;)
 
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Of all the Fender factory PJs based on the J body, the Reggie Hamilton model has the P pup about as close as possible to the actual P-bass location, without cutting through the bridge side of the J pickguard.

Crazy (mad?) as I am, I am sorely tempted to acquire an Am Deluxe Jazz V, and hack it for a P pup in the Reggie location, for a poor man's RHV wanna be. I might do that, right after I hatch my current scheme to transplant an Am Deluxe P neck onto a non-Deluxe P body (with PJ pups, of course).

Quickly, old chum…to Invalid Link Removed! :D
(…that's where I got my aforementioned Classic '70s Jazz body, thanks to last year's Christmas Sale)
 
On a related note…I'm giving some thought of doing a similar conversion to a Classic '70s Jazz. I'm rather curious how the deep, Precision "thump" will blend with the extra "growl" of a bridge pup in the seventies-position.
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I believe an American jaguar bass is set up this way. I have the classic 70s jazz and the deluxe jaguar bass (Japan) and the bridge pickup is the same distance from the bridge on both. I don't have the American jaguar but it looks like that bridge pickup is also the same distance from the bridge.
 
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