Hey man, I dissed the app, not the musicians.
If you're insulted by name dropping Mustang Sally, that's your baggage.
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If you're insulted by name dropping Mustang Sally, that's your baggage.
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Nice backpedal.... and I'm hoping you're better at playing bass than you are at being subtle.
Even better, I'll put you on my ignore list, you put me on yours.
Well, you're going on mine regardless.
No backpedalling here.
I stand firm in my hope that you enjoy yourself while playing covers tomorrow night.
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The fact that it's a Friday and you play in a cover band? Feel free to extend the sentiment to whichever day of the week you find yourself playing covers.
FWIW my set tomorrow night will likely include "I'd Rather Go Blind" and one of "Walk On Gilded Splinters" or "The Chain."
Valid point. I think that part of the problem we face now is that, just like film, the tools available today for realizing our artistic vision have taken us well past what a traditional band is capable of doing live. We have an enormous digital palette to work with that gives us the opportunity to create new and different styles of music. The question that arises is how do you perform your music live without using tracks? The Beatles had to stop performing live for that reason.
It goes all the way back to Les Paul. He's the grandfather of backing tracks.
Maybe, but that wasn't what this guy was doing.
One of the guitarists was a famous-30-years-ago glam band guy who reminisced between his "songs." Some one might find that entertaining. I didn't.
Actually it was kind of the opposite for them. Sound reinforcement technology couldn't support the size of the venues they were playing & no one could hear anything beyond the screaming.
When they made the decision to stop touring it opened them up to the possibilities of producing material they'd never have to worry about playing live.
Check out Ron Howard's film "The Beatles: Eight Days a Week-The Touring Years".
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I have never and will never play in a band that uses backing tracks. To me, it's cheating. You are not playing the parts and are misleading the audience. If they want to hear recordings, they can stay home. If you can't play it live, you shouldn't play it at all. Hire someone who can play the parts.
When I go to see a performance of the 1812 Overture, there better be real cannons 
I play in a band that is all live, and a band that uses a lot of tracks. Both play weddings, I enjoy both for different reasons, and their target audiences are different. And both take different disciplines that have their own challenges.
Nothing wrong with playing covers, ever. In fact, as a bassist on the sessions of others, you're playing other people's music anyway unless you wrote everything. Music is music and I enjoy participating in it whether I am playing covers, recording my own music with others, recording others' music with them, or engineering live or in studio.
Nothing wrong with playing covers, ever. In fact, as a bassist on the sessions of others, you're playing other people's music anyway unless you wrote everything. Music is music and I enjoy participating in it whether I am playing covers, recording my own music with others, recording others' music with them, or engineering live or in studio.
TB continues to reveal that many musicians think that audiences are interested in witnessing a performance of technique, skill, and talent. The truth is that audiences want to be entertained. These things are neither mutually exclusive nor inseparable, however, entertainment will always win.
Oh if I had a dollar for every time a musician claimed another was doing it wrong /cheating /not the real thing /doesn't have "it"/ etc...
A good portion of the stuff I get a check for playing is supplemented by backing track material. It's 2017 and the current economy doesn't support bringing a set of background vocal singers, a horn section, or additional keys, percussion, and guitar everywhere. Unless things change, this is the new normal and it's going to stay this way. Most of you guys that moan and complain about tracks reveal that you aren't an active working musician that's actually busy, current, and knows the lay of the land in regards to how live music is done these days. And yet y'all claim to have numerous product endorsements and conduct yourselves like you have a complete handle on how it is under stage lights. Yet another TB mystery.
Unfortunately, I have to perform in the real world, not a fantasy or supposition of my own manufacture, and tracks are just the standard now. I can quit these bands that use tracks as some sort of BS posture about how music "should" be played, or continue to do what I love and get paid for it. I'll take the latter. I still play real, live bass all night, as I did years before tracks, and nothing has changed for me outside of using inears. It's not a problem because I can actually play with a click, the right way. I've seen a lot of bassists crash and burn trying to do that, so it's safe to assume that a lot of them just can't.
I hear the musician naysayers often, but they're mostly not live performers and I just tolerate them during breaks. As mentioned before, the primary job of a live band is to entertain an audience - it isn't to impress them with your performance philosophies and gear choices. A point sadly missed far too often on this forum.
Unfortunately, I have to perform in the real world, not a fantasy or supposition of my own manufacture, and tracks are just the standard now. I can quit these bands that use tracks as some sort of BS posture about how music "should" be played, or continue to do what I love and get paid for it. I'll take the latter. I still play real, live bass all night, as I did years before tracks, and nothing has changed for me outside of using inears. It's not a problem because I can actually play with a click, the right way. I've seen a lot of bassists crash and burn trying to do that, so it's safe to assume that a lot of them just can't.
I hear the musician naysayers often, but they're mostly not live performers and I just tolerate them during breaks. As mentioned before, the primary job of a live band is to entertain an audience - it isn't to impress them with your performance philosophies and gear choices. A point sadly missed far too often on this forum.
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