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Playing a huge outdoor show.....

My guess is the organizers wanted the other act to shoulder too much for too little. Feel free to pass along the name(s) of some area production companies to them and let them handle it lock stock and barrel.

If they want to push it back on you.....get out...now! You will be on the hook for a ton of money to a production house and without contracts, hefty deposits...I will guarantee even the most well meaning benefits will leave you with a 16 ton anvil shoved up your butt.

I find benefits tend to be poorly organized, poorly run, and poorly paid. I will not be a part of any benefit that doesn't pay me well. The beer vendor is still being paid, the food vendors are being paid...why shouldn't the bands. Now if I choose to give my share after expenses including my own gas to get there and back, I will. I usually give the balance back. The band doesn't give it back, I give it back personally and insist on a receipt towards this not for profit cause. No receipt....no donation. Benefits for fellow players, or guys I know, I'm in. For Kid's camps, cancer awareness, etc, pay me! The Budweiser guy gets his, I get mine.

It's important to realize, that while your band is foaming at the mouth for the exposure, you are being used, plain and simple. It's up to you to make sure the using goes both ways. Being used is not a bad thing, not using those using you is a less than smart thing.
 
It's a benefit show to (I think) raise money to help veterans.

There are plenty of REAL, Organizations that Benefit Vets...if none of them were involved I think I'd pass.

Air Force Association
Air Force Sergeants Association
American Cold War Veterans
American Corporate Partners
American Ex-Prisoners of War
American G.I. Forum
American Legion
American Legion Riders
American Red Cross
American Veterans Motorcycle Club
American Veterans Motorcycle Riders Association
American Veterans Services
American Veterans for Equal Rights
AMVETS
Artistic American Veterans
Association of Confederate Soldiers
Blinded Veterans Association
Blue Alliance - LGBT Alumni of the U.S. Air Force Academy
Catholic War Veterans
Cherokee Nation Warriors Society
Cold War Veterans Association
Confederate Survivors Association
Collegiate Veterans Association
Disabled American Veterans
Fleet Reserve Association
Grand Army of the Republic
Healing Heroes Network
HeroBox
Hope For Veterans
Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America or IAVA (formerly OpTruth)
Iraq Veterans Against the War
Iraq War Veterans Organization
Jewish War Veterans of the USA
Korean War Veterans Association
Leathernecks Motorcycle Club, NYC
Marine Corps League
Military Officers Association of America
Military Order of Foreign Wars
Military Order of the Loyal Legion of the United States
Military Order of the Purple Heart
Military Order of the World Wars
The Mission Continues
National Association for Black Veterans
National Coalition for Homeless Veterans
National Veteran-Owned Business Association
Naval Enlisted Reserve Association (NERA)
Navy Musicians Association
New Battlefront Foundation
Operation Stand Down
Paralyzed Veterans of America
Pearl Harbor Survivors Association
Retired Enlisted Association (TREA)
Semper Fidelis Health & Wellness
Servicemembers Legal Defense Network
The 6th branch
The Society of Hispanic Veterans
Society of the Cincinnati
Sons of Union Veterans of the Civil War
Sons of Confederate Veterans
Swords to Plowshares
Ukrainian American Veterans
United Confederate Veterans
United Service Organizations
United Spanish War Veterans
United Spinal Association
United States Submarine Veterans Inc. (USSVI)
United States Submarine Veterans of World War II
U.S. Military Vets Motorcycle Club
Veterans Advantage
Veteran Artist Program
Veterans Campaign
Veterans for America
Veterans for Peace
Veterans Foundation Incorporated
Veterans History Project
Veterans of Foreign Wars
Veterans of Modern Warfare
VETPAC
Vietnamese American Armed Forces Association
Vietnam Veterans Against the War
Vietnam Veterans of America
Vietnam Veterans Motorcycle Club
Warrior Brotherhood Veterans Motorcycle Club
Warrior Ranch
Women in Military Service for America Memorial Foundation, Inc.
Wounded Warrior Project
Wildflecken Veterans Association
 
Here's my dilemna: my band has been bumped up from opening act to headliners for a benefit at the end of next month. We need to provide a PA, which we had been counting on the original headliners to provide. We are playing outdoors, to an expected croed of three to five thousand. Any recommendations for what we need, power wise for the show?:bassist:
I'm just going to add to the chorus - don't do it. Any "organizer" that expects a local band to provide PA for 3000-5000 people either hasn't a clue what he's doing or is running a scam of some kind. Or (more likely) both. The original headliner has already figured this out. Run like the wind.
 
Hmmm... :hmm:

Nearly a week later, yet still no follow-up posting from the OP. Methinks he probably heard something he didn't like at this meeting with the promoters last Sunday, and is too embarrassed at how badly he almost got snookered to let anyone else know about it... :atoz:

MM
 
I can say this. Any sound company that you talk to that is being asked to provide support for a show expected to draw 3-5000 will ask for a deposit. No deposit, no gear. That deposit is gonna be pretty hefty too. And in some cases the deposit just secures the DATE, not the actual gear... ie: you pay it even if the event doesn't happen. After all, the company is holding the date open for your show, and if they turn down other work for your show and then it doesn't go off, then they are out $$. That might be why the original headliner backed out, over a deposit. After all, a benefit show probably doesn't have a lot of money just lying around...

I've done "big show" professional sound for over 20 years. I can't count how many times that people promised big crowds and no one showed and then they wanted to not pay or said they couldn't.

If it was my band, I'd ask the person putting the show on what time I need to be there for soundcheck, and then my only worry after that would be getting prepared to PLAY the show, not setting everything up. I wouldn't touch this with a ten foot pole.

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