Nice of you to stereotype and generalize probably 100+ TalkBass members. You're right, we're all idiots.
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Playing live in a room
- Thread starter Slaphound
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Some music is meant to be felt as much as it is heard.
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i played a house show on saturday in a room with 6 foot ceilings, room was probably 11x15. we used 2 acoustic 408s, 2 orange 412s, 1 kustom 210/212, an ampeg SVT, a hiwatt dr103, a matamp gt120 and an ampeg 400T.
it was awesome.
it was awesome.
I want pictures of that lineup. That sounds excellent.
Last bar gig I did with my loud band I had my 400 watt tube amp well in to break up. Dont like it? Leave.
Playing super loud is in my opinion simply not musical - unless your music genre doesn't need dynamics. I don't personally listen to any such genre though, I may have missed some example of when volume constantly at max is a good thing.
It's really hard to hear any details in the music when your eardrums are slammed together in the middle of your head.
It's really hard to hear any details in the music when your eardrums are slammed together in the middle of your head.
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also, the music i love is sooo much better when the band is loud. it just enhance's the thump! fat bass & drums in reggae is a must! i'm not advocating ear shattering levels,.. just clean punch with power to spare. if it doesn't punch you in the gut...
Playing super loud is in my opinion simply not musical - unless your music genre doesn't need dynamics. I don't personally listen to any such genre though, I may have missed some example of when volume constantly at max is a good thing.
It's really hard to hear any details in the music when your eardrums are slammed together in the middke of your head.
I dont like pickles, and I think they ruin any food they touch. That doesnt mean anyone who eats one is wrong or has bad taste.
Speaking only for myself here, but I like bigger, taller rigs because I'm tall and I like turning around and seeing my amp close to eye level rather than down at my knees. That's why I usually prefer two 410 to one 410 or now using a 3620.
Absolutely, which is why I phrased my post carefully to say it's only my opinion. You are perfectly free to have a differing one. And yes, I will leave that bar.
As to the issue in this thread, playing very loud in a problematic room just doesn't work; you need to lower the volume and also try to control problem resonances and boominess (usually in the bass). A parametric equalizer can be a good tool to hunt down problem frequencies.
Playing super loud is in my opinion simply not musical - unless your music genre doesn't need dynamics. I don't personally listen to any such genre though, I may have missed some example of when volume constantly at max is a good thing.
It's really hard to hear any details in the music when your eardrums are slammed together in the middke of your head.
the whole point of playing that loud is for dynamics when you come down. for example if were doing a part that is really quiet, and you build gradually into something huge and loud, thats cool dynamics.
not sure ive ever heard a band in the doom/stoner genre that is just blaring loud 100% of the time, its usually mixed in with quieter parts and parts with soloed out instruments. hell even Sunn who is considered the loudest band brings it down quite a bit - its what makes the loud even louder.
ABSOLUTELY!!!
when we play live at moderate levels,.. people just hang-out. when we "bang-it-out",... the crowd goes nuts! they want to feel the hypnotic BEAT. my 2x15 blows so much air that my pant legs ripple,... and i am very musical.
just ask me!
I have never had any room be too problematic for my rig regardless of volume. "Loud" doesnt mean we dont use eq.
Please recognize volume wars as being decidedly different issue entirely from genres of music that call for it / it's the norm to be epic-loud.
I do not knock loud music as long as it itself is cohesive, unified, musical.
I do not knock loud music as long as it itself is cohesive, unified, musical.
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Good for you. Let's hope the band the OP listened to reads this thread and learns about EQ then.
I've been to shows where the bands were really loud, and sounded good. I've been to shows where the band was really loud and sounded terrible.
Loud and bad, is bad. Loud and good, is good.
Loud and bad, is bad. Loud and good, is good.
we'll be playing there again as it went well and the rig looked cool too. both 408s laid on the side on the floor. an orange on top on the edges, the large kustom column laid across the oranges. SVT and hiwatt in the empty gap laying on the 408s, matamp on top of one orange and next to the kustom, ampeg 400T on top of other orange, next to the other end of the kustom.
