Playing live in a room

[mc_muench]

MAXIMUM VOLUME YIELDS MAXIMUM GOATS


HAIL SATAN WORSHIP DOO)))M, in Tony Iommi's name we riff.


This has been your daily DOOMly advice from your friendly Reverend DOOM.

 

[Kaa]

MAXIMUM VOLUME YIELDS MAXIMUM GOATS


HAIL SATAN WORSHIP DOO)))M, in Tony Iommi's name we riff.


This has been your daily DOOMly advice from your friendly Reverend DOOM.

LOL. Nerd.

 

[4Mal]

Dont like it? Leave.

Somehow I'm guessing that either you don't actually want to gig or maybe you aren't the one booking dates. The attitude expressed in your post is pretty much guaranteed to get you fired as a band. Maybe thats OK if your band was just a bad fit for the room. If a player in one of my bands exhibited that lack of respect for the venue and audience it would be an opportunity for counselling. If twice, they would be gone. We like to work, we want to be asked back and to be able to ask for open dates... If we are a bad fit for the room, we'll find a way to get through the night without needlessly annoying the venue or audience. We just won't go back...

 

[CL400Peavey]

Somehow I'm guessing that either you don't actually want to gig or maybe you aren't the one booking dates. The attitude expressed in your post is pretty much guaranteed to get you fired as a band. Maybe thats OK if your band was just a bad fit for the room. If a player in one of my bands exhibited that lack of respect for the venue and audience it would be an opportunity for counselling. If twice, they would be gone. We like to work, we want to be asked back and to be able to ask for open dates... If we are a bad fit for the room, we'll find a way to get through the night without needlessly annoying the venue or audience. We just won't go back...

I think you get very different gigs than I do with my loud band. Thats ok. I actually have zero issue booking loud gigs, there are plenty of people that want that kind of music. The fact that you dont want to do to the gig, means nothing to them.

Furthermore how is that disrespectful of the venue or the audience? The band gets booked based upon the knowledge of what we do with the approval of the venue. If that doesnt fit the audience, that really isnt my problem. You dont show up to someone's jazz gig, and get mad that they are not playing country or pop or metal do you?

 

[mbelue]

Every jazz gig I've been to I was mad they weren't playing metal. Of course all the jazz acts I've seen were accidents.

 

[CL400Peavey]

Every jazz gig I've been to I was mad they weren't playing metal. Of course all the jazz acts I've seen were accidents.

Right?

My point is, if you go to a show and there is a S/D band there, and you dont appreciate the music, then you either made a mistake, or were misinformed on who was playing. It isnt like these kind of bands try to trick venue owners in to letting them play in jazz clubs.

 

[BassCliff]

Hi,

I've got nothing against "loud". Excess volume is what I don't appreciate, volume for volume's sake. Sometimes the acoustics of the room will limit your acceptable decibel levels and no amount of EQ will "fix" it. I don't care what kind of music you play, if you are hurting your audience you are not doing them a service and need to turn down. Dynamics are more exciting than just "loud". I don't care what genre you are playing, too loud is too loud... even when the patrons, club owners, sound guys, or band members don't realize it.

Yes, I'm an old fuddy duddy who's played all kinds of music in all kinds of venues at all kinds of volumes. I now suffer from tinnitus and urge everyone to be reasonable, unless you don't care about your hearing.

Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff

 

[beebassdude]

Hi,

I've got nothing against "loud". Excess volume is what I don't appreciate, volume for volume's sake. Sometimes the acoustics of the room will limit your acceptable decibel levels and no amount of EQ will "fix" it. I don't care what kind of music you play, if you are hurting your audience you are not doing them a service and need to turn down. Dynamics are more exciting than just "loud". I don't care what genre you are playing, too loud is too loud... even when the patrons, club owners, sound guys, or band members don't realize it.

Yes, I'm an old fuddy duddy who's played all kinds of music in all kinds of venues at all kinds of volumes. I now suffer from tinnitus and urge everyone to be reasonable, unless you don't care about your hearing.

Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff

so wear ear plugs and take care of your hearing.

loud is fun as long as the music is good.

 

[CL400Peavey]

I wear ear plugs to ever show and practice. As does the vast majority of people going to those kind of shows.

 

[RAMUSIC]

I also wear ear plugs whenever practicing or playing out. I even wear ear protection at other people's shows. It's not my responsibility to make sure everyone present has hearing protection or cares about their hearing.

 

[mbelue]

The sensation of loud is more than audible. Some of us are willing to use ear protection to experience this.

 

[RAMUSIC]

The sensation of loud is more than audible. Some of us are willing to use ear protection to experience this.

Not to mention the even-order harmonics produced by tubes working hard

 

[Remyd]

i played a house show on saturday in a room with 6 foot ceilings, room was probably 11x15. we used 2 acoustic 408s, 2 orange 412s, 1 kustom 210/212, an ampeg SVT, a hiwatt dr103, a matamp gt120 and an ampeg 400T. it was awesome.

Were there windows when you started? That hurts my ears just to read.

 

[Mvilmany]

If a band plays too loud, they're simply doing it wrong.

If a musician or group (or sound man) can't figure out how to achieve an acoustic balance in a room, then that's a pile of suck.

"But our drummer plays REALLY loud!" Well, tell him to learn how to play the drums.

"But my 100 watt guitar amp needs to be turned up past 11 to get MY SOUND" Don't say anything, just hit the Guitard with a rolled-up newspaper until he turns down.

 

[CL400Peavey]

Were there windows when you started? That hurts my ears just to read.

If a band plays too loud, they're simply doing it wrong.

If a musician or group (or sound man) can't figure out how to achieve an acoustic balance in a room, then that's a pile of suck.

"But our drummer plays REALLY loud!" Well, tell him to learn how to play the drums.

"But my 100 watt guitar amp needs to be turned up past 11 to get MY SOUND" Don't say anything, just hit the Guitard with a rolled-up newspaper until he turns down.

"Gross, you ate a sandwich with pickles? I am sick just thinking of it. Furthermore you or anyone else who eats pickles is just wrong, and the chef making the meal is an idiot."

 

[RAMUSIC]

"Gross, you ate a sandwich with pickles? I am sick just thinking of it. Furthermore you or anyone else who eats pickles is just wrong, and the chef making the meal is an idiot."

I f***ing hate pickles.

 

[BassCliff]

Hi,

I do believe in using hearing protection, especially when attending venues where I have no control over the volume. But when you get right down to it, wearing ear plugs to go hear live music is like kissing through a screen door.


Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff

 

[CL400Peavey]

Hi,

I do believe in using hearing protection, especially when attending venues where I have no control over the volume. But when you get right down to it, wearing ear plugs to go hear live music is like kissing through a screen door.


Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff

"I dont bang with rubbers."

Protect yourself.

 

[CL400Peavey]

I f***ing hate pickles.

Right but you are not going to get unhinged when someone else eats them.

 

[mbelue]

Hi,

I do believe in using hearing protection, especially when attending venues where I have no control over the volume. But when you get right down to it, wearing ear plugs to go hear live music is like kissing through a screen door.


Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff

Just because I laugh at the kinkier stuff doesn't mean I don't respect it.