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Position in relation to drummer

Most of my career stage left, but never worried too much about it if the particulars of a gig move me around. Visual on kick is good but with good sound on stage it’s not a must.

Been playing in a Zeppelin tribute for a few months now, and it’s the longest run of stage right I’ve ever had! Kinda been digging it.
 
...I am with Chet Baker on this one:
"It takes a pretty good drummer to be better than no drummer at all."

I hesitate to post this, but IMO it gets into what I think is the meaning of something @JRA has posted in this thread (and before): "Lockup" is not my goal and given my preference not that of a drummer I'm working with.

It's a nice effect on occasion if you want that "Steam-Locomotive" vibe during a song or more likely: PART of a song... ...but "Mesh" is what I typically want to do with a drummer: It's a dance, and dancing like robots is uninspiring and tiring for all involved. Sorry for the swerve. :)
 
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I hesitate to post this, but IMO it gets into what I think is the meaning of something @JRA has posted in this thread (and before): "Lockup" is not my goal and given my preference not that of a drummer I'm working with.

It's a nice effect on occasion if you want that "Steam-Locomotive" vibe during a song or more likely: PART of a song... ...but "Mesh" is what I typically want to do with a drummer: It's a dance, and dancing like robots is uninspiring and tiring for all involved. Sorry for the swerve. :)

"Mesh" or "lockup" are basically the same concept. The goal is to play WITH the drummer.
 
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I had a soundperson look down their nose at me for starting to set up stage right of the drummer.

It really doesn't matter to me where I'm located on stage, as time is coming from me and not the drummer anyway.
 
I stand where I can see as well as hear the drummer. Usually, that is in the pocket next to or just in front of the high hat. That way, depending on the song, I can lock with what is predominant for that song: snare, bass, ride, etc. You have to develop your ability to lock on sight, because depending on the stage, volume of everybody else on stage, including monitors, if the drummer has a sound baffle, etc., you gotta depend on your eyes, sometimes more than your ears, to lock in.
I've never had that problem with not being able to hear kick and snare, but I imagine if your monitor mix is not good on a large stage, it could be an issue. I'm not interested in developing an ability like that to overcome poor stage mixes, though. Would rather fix the mix. This might have something to do with the fact that I'm on mic for much of the night, so having to depend on a line of sight with the drummer would be pretty difficult since he's often behind me.
 
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I had a soundperson look down their nose at me for starting to set up stage right of the drummer.

It really doesn't matter to me where I'm located on stage, as time is coming from me and not the drummer anyway.
The stage I play most often has a dedicated sound system and the line for the bass head is always coiled up to the left of where the drums normally are (there's also a house drum kit). I've seen a few bassists set up in other spots there but it's pretty clear most of us like that side. I've never tried to deviate from that area so I don't know what any of the sound engineers might have to say about it if I did.
 
I've never had that problem with not being able to hear kick and snare, but I imagine if your monitor mix is not good on a large stage, it could be an issue. I'm not interested in developing an ability like that to overcome poor stage mixes, though. Would rather fix the mix. This might have something to do with the fact that I'm on mic for much of the night, so having to depend on sight with the drummer would be pretty difficult.
I understand this point of view. I do not sing with my current party band; with 10 people on stage including a Chicago-style horn section, there is no need for any more vocals. So I stay in the pocket and keep everybody else together.
 
I understand this point of view. I do not sing with my current party band; with 10 people on stage including a Chicago-style horn section, there is no need for any more vocals. So I stay in the pocket and keep everybody else together.
It's probably also the case that many bassists who don't sing also don't also have a monitor directly in front of them. In one band I'm in, we have an overabundance of singers, and on certain stages I have to hang back behind the two lead singers and rely on whatever manages to make it to me from their monitors. So far I haven't had any problems hearing the drummer in that band but, again, I can see how it could happen.