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Post Your Pedalboard - Part I

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Ive been back and forth on even using effects but heres what Im going to try next ... The EP-1 is Killer... very versatile, I havent spent too much time with it at this point but so far I like it alot.

The '70 Purple Fulltone Fuzz is also Great, these units are different than the standard '70 Fuzz models, they have an adjustable internal trimpot that affects the Bass response ("soft to firm").

- Tom
 
#944
Very nice my friend!.. Well done... But if I may, why do you have the sansamp first in the chain?.. Is it always on?.

Alex

echo008 said:
Ive been back and forth on even using effects but heres what Im going to try next ... The EP-1 is Killer... very versatile, I havent spent too much time with it at this point but so far I like it alot.

The '70 Purple Fulltone Fuzz is also Great, these units are different than the standard '70 Fuzz models, they have an adjustable internal trimpot that affects the Bass response ("soft to firm").

- Tom
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#945
Tecx said:
Very nice my friend!.. Well done... But if I may, why do you have the sansamp first in the chain?.. Is it always on?.

Alex
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Hi,
thats a good question ... :)
The SansAmp might be moved to the end of the chain, I just set this up, and havent had a chance to even play this board out yet. The Sansamp is not always going to be on though.

I am going to see how running the effects through the Sansamp sounds. Instead of the way its shown in the photo.

- Tom
 
#946
Ahh I see, well it is a amp simulator as you know... So, running effects into it would sound more "natural". But I am all for unnatural sounds! Although amp sim -> fuzz would sound not so plesent I would think... :hmm:

Nice board though man... I am glad to see you chose a EV filter...

Alex

echo008 said:
Hi,
thats a good question ... :)
The SansAmp might be moved to the end of the chain, I just set this up, and havent had a chance to even play this board out yet. The Sansamp is not always going to be on though.

I am going to see how running the effects through the Sansamp sounds. Instead of the way its shown in the photo.

- Tom
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#947
Tecx said:
Ahh I see, well it is a amp simulator as you know... So, running effects into it would sound more "natural". But I am all for unnatural sounds! Although amp sim -> fuzz would sound not so plesent I would think... :hmm:

Nice board though man... I am glad to see you chose a EV filter...

Alex
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Thanks.
Do you think I should try putting the Sansamp after the EP-1 but before the Fuzz?
 
#948
Tecx said:
Ahh I see, well it is a amp simulator as you know... So, running effects into it would sound more "natural"...

Alex
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I see in my manual that came with my Programmable BDDI that Tech21 recommend putting some effects (eg, octaver, envelope filter) before the Sansamp and others (eg, chorus) after. Any idea of the reasoning behind their signal chain order?

Thanks! Bill

EDIT Sorry, just checked.. octaver doesn't appear on their list, but wah-wah does, so that's where I put my Digitech BSW (although I only use this as an octaver) and, of course, my MXR Auto Q... BEFORE the Sansamp. Boss Chorus CEB-3 comes after as per Tech21's recommendations. So my signal chain is bass>>BSW>>Auto Q>>Sansamp>>CEB-3>>Amp.
 
#949
I just finished my pedalboard project. I'm new to bass playing (2 years) and even more a novice when it comes to effects (2 months). I'm not in a band pers se; I get together once or twice a week to jam with some buddies, a few of which are very accomplished guitarists. I decided it was time to experiment with some effects in order to change things up from time to time to fit different styles that we play. But I wanted to keep it low cost (like my pedal collection!)

I had a carpenter friend build me the board. It was based on the Tonebone Boneyard mostly. I cut and glued the carpet. Total cost = @ $20. Chain goes like this: Boss NS-2 --> Behringer BLE100 --> Behringer BOD100 --> Ibanex PD-7 --> Sansamp BDDI --> Behringer BCH100, powered by a Godlyke PA-9 (and the NS-2 as an extension). The routing is going to change when I get my two channel Looper in a week or so. And I must admit to a serious case of GAS for the soon-to-be-released Ashdown pedals. Does anybody know of a good case for this? The dimensions are 23 1/2 x 15 1/2 x 4 3/4.
 
#950
bassybill said:
I see in my manual that came with my Programmable BDDI that Tech21 recommend putting some effects (eg, octaver, envelope filter) before the Sansamp and others (eg, chorus) after. Any idea of the reasoning behind their signal chain order?
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Im going to place the sansamp after the EP-1 envelope ...

I can understand not placing the Fuzz before the Sansamp due to the fact that the Sansamp already has a Distortion overdrive effect as well the sansamp BOOSTS the signal substantially which could seriously distort the distortion!!!!
Potentially creating a mess of the tone... again I have not tried this... but will check it out for good measure.
- Tom
 
#951
echo008 said:
Im going to place the sansamp after the EP-1 envelope ...

I can understand not placing the Fuzz before the Sansamp due to the fact that the Sansamp already has a Distortion overdrive effect as well the sansamp BOOSTS the signal substantially which could seriously distort the distortion!!!!
Potentially creating a mess of the tone... again I have not tried this... but will check it out for good measure.
- Tom
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My opinion is that you should run fuzz - filter - sansamp with the tuner on the parrallel out, trust me ;)

This will sound best
 
#953
echo008 said:
Im going to place the sansamp after the EP-1 envelope ...

I can understand not placing the Fuzz before the Sansamp due to the fact that the Sansamp already has a Distortion overdrive effect as well the sansamp BOOSTS the signal substantially which could seriously distort the distortion!!!!
Potentially creating a mess of the tone... again I have not tried this... but will check it out for good measure.
- Tom
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I always run OD/fuzz/distortion *before* the SansAmp. I find that the SansAmp smooths out the distortion in a way that I like. Makes it sound more like a distorted tube amp than the effect alone. Plus you now get two sounds.

Note however that I never use the distortion on the SansAmp. If you do you might hit the problems you mentioned. Although once when I forgot my Torn's Peaker, I cranked the drive on the SansAmp and cranked the Sparkle Drive into it to try to mimic the over the top sound of the Torn's Peaker.
 
#954
seanm said:
I always run OD/fuzz/distortion *before* the SansAmp. I find that the SansAmp smooths out the distortion in a way that I like. Makes it sound more like a distorted tube amp than the effect alone. Plus you now get two sounds.

Note however that I never use the distortion on the SansAmp. If you do you might hit the problems you mentioned. Although once when I forgot my Torn's Peaker, I cranked the drive on the SansAmp and cranked the Sparkle Drive into it to try to mimic the over the top sound of the Torn's Peaker.
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Seems popular opinion on this setup is
EP-1 > Fuzz > Sansamp
Exact opposite of how I have it now :)

Are you guys using active instruments? just curious :hmm:
- Tom
 
#956
well the way I normally used it on my passive basses was to add a touch of overdrive and always have it on (EQ) .... But I was not all that into using the sansamp with my active basses I felt like the tone got too*"Hot" sounding, too edgy.

I am getting in a few short days a lakland 55-94D that will become my main bass, Im not sure how its going to sound out of the Lakland (although I cant imagine it being bad). Nonetheless at this point Im thinking that unless Im using the Lakland in passive mode, The sanamp will primarily be for the DI function. (Although again, until I can hear it ...I might love the way the sanamp sounds active through the unit)

- Tom
 
#957
seanm said:
I always run OD/fuzz/distortion *before* the SansAmp. I find that the SansAmp smooths out the distortion in a way that I like. Makes it sound more like a distorted tube amp than the effect alone. Plus you now get two sounds.

Note however that I never use the distortion on the SansAmp. If you do you might hit the problems you mentioned. Although once when I forgot my Torn's Peaker, I cranked the drive on the SansAmp and cranked the Sparkle Drive into it to try to mimic the over the top sound of the Torn's Peaker.
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My experience showed me that I DO NOT want my Sans Amp on when the other drive pedals are engaged. I don't like the resultant "smoothing out" of the distortion quality. I like that coarse touch.
 
#958
syciprider said:
My experience showed me that I DO NOT want my Sans Amp on when the other drive pedals are engaged. I don't like the resultant "smoothing out" of the distortion quality. I like that coarse touch.
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Ohhh, don't get me wrong... I also love the raw sound of the straight distortion! In fact I find I am using the SansAmp less and less. More for the songs where the SVT sound is really prominent.

If you have ever heard a Torn's Peaker, it is actually more raw "smoothed out" then many distortions are full on :bassist:

echo008 said:
Seems popular opinion on this setup is
EP-1 > Fuzz > Sansamp
Exact opposite of how I have it now

Are you guys using active instruments? just curious
- Tom
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Passive all the way!
 
#960
ejsagun:

Thanks. As far as the Berhinger pedals, the Limiter Enhancer is my favorite of the three. It might be the least expensive compression you can buy right now. I messed around with a friend's Boss LMB-3 and liked it, but didn't want to drop $80 on one. This thing is even closer to the Boss than I expected. I love it.

The Bass Overdrive is more-than-decent for $20. The controls are very sensitive and the more I play with them, the better I like the tones I am getting. I have a BDDI for tube warmth/subtle overdrive, and an Ibanez PD-7 (that I don't care for much at all) for heavy distortion. I have the Behringer set up to give me something in the middle, slight to moderate grit. It is doing that quite nicely at the moment. You can get some really heavy overdrive with this as well, and it hisses less than the PD-7. Seperate bass and treble controls let you compensate for bass loss when you crank the gain, so the array of sounds you can get with this thing is quite wide.

The Bass Chorus I haven't played with much. Nor have I played with much in the way of chorus pedals in general. However, this thing makes some very cool sounds. The quality of the effect is much better than the chorus effect on a BP200 that I used to have (which cost 7.5 times as much) if that means anything to you. It shouldn't mean a lot because the BP200 wasn't all that impressive to me. The Behringer sounds very good to my ears and is heavily tweakable. I look forward to playing around with this thing when I get time.

The pedals are plastic as has been noted, but they feel and act solid. I'm not worried about the durability of the housing because I don't mash on these things. They do not noticeably degrade the tone when not engaged (but I'm getting a Looper just in case) and are fairly noiseless (until you start maxing them out). The control knobs don't have that tight feel like the Boss knobs; they turn too easily and don't feel all that precise. Also, I wish the port for the power chord was on the back of the unit instead of the side. Those would be my only negative comments really. In my opinion, these things are well worth $20, especially if you just feel like experimenting with something and don't want to invest $80-200 to find out you are going to like it or not.

Oh yeah, one other bad thing: they don't necessarily quell G.A.S. I've only had them two weeks and I am still having dreams about the new Ashdown pedals.
 
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