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Pre-Gig Buzz

#81
I didn't wish to get all Sunday School on anyone. My point is:
"Whatever works for you, just be really, really careful if you find you absolutely NEED a chemical in your day to day life-that's a red flag....." (from my earlier post)
So moderation is in there somewhere-it's not black or white unless you have a problem, and then it probably is....
 
#83
edbass said:
If it is the company policy for the bank to allow drinking on the job, I'd say go for it!
Was that in the official company policy handbook; "a few beers at your desks every now and then in the afternoon" is fine?
I'm not sure I want a bank with that policy handling my money, but that's just me.

In all seriousness, how would you honestly answer this question:
If a simple error was made by an employee at that bank costing a customer money, the customer was the one to catch it and it got out that said employee was drinking alcohol at their desk when it happened; how long would that employee continue to remain employed at that bank?
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They have beer vending machines at the Dornier aircraft manufacturing plant in Germany.
 
#84
I work in IT, so it's a bit different - i don't think they let the tellers drink :D. But that's really not the point. The point I was trying to make is you can ingest alcohol (drink) and not be impaired in the slightest. It takes me at least 3 beers to even start feeling a buzz, so I fail to see how having a beer makes me less able to do my job than having a coke. Alcohol is so demonized that it seems certain people think having a beer or two is going to make you unable to function on a normal plain.

Plus, you write better code with a little buzz, everyone knows that. :bassist:

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#85
I'll echo some of the sentiments already posted, just from my perspective.

I'm in a cover band. I get paid well to entertain people. AM I a great player? Not really, not even when I'm stone-cold sober, but I enjoy entertaining people. Having a few drinks during a gig takes the edge off, and suddenly, I'm everyone's friend. There's no self-conciousness, and everyone gets along just fine. We as a band do this. We befriend the audience, play some music they like to dance to, and have them eating out of the palm of our hand. This is a big reason why, even though there are probably musically and technically better bands out there, we get alot of gigs and get paid well. Nobody who goes to see a cover band at a bar is taking notes on what is perfect and what isn't, except maybe other musicians, who aren't our target audience. We strive night after night to put on the best show we can, and if a bit of drinking helps that, so be it. I've played completely sober and with a decent buzz, and I like being somewhere in the middle... just enough to take the edge off performing and to help me relax. IMHO, of course.
 
#86
Just my two cents. As the years go on, I realize we're paid to perform professionally. I don't show up to work drinking at my desk, why should I when I perform music?
Most places wouldn't care, but one casino in particular states in their contract, no consumption of alcohol or other chemicals while we're temporary employees.
No one in the band has yet complained.
Plus, it makes the after gig parties back in the room even more fun!
Don't get me wrong, I'm no teetotaler, but people pay us serious money for music. Not too see musicians up on stage drinking and partying on their dime. We know how to get a drunk party crowd in the mood but we maintain that control because that's what we're paid to do.

(stepping off soapbox)
 
#87
debassr said:
Are you Charlie Brown's teacher?
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Are you in denial? I think that recreational intoxicant use is a good idea, most people can handle it and it releases stress.
I party like the provebial "sailor on shore leave", just not when I'm working.

It's not professional.

And... if you need to be intoxicated to function, there's a good chance you actually need to stop.
 
#90
higgi said:
They have beer vending machines at the Dornier aircraft manufacturing plant in Germany.
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I don't know anything about German liability laws, but I imagine that would be an absolute field day for plaintiff's attorneys in the US if a plane went down with a manufacturing defect.

But, as I posted if you are allowed to drink on the job by corporate policy, Go For It! I certainly would!
 
#93
TripleDouble said:
Do whatever you want, it's your gig/party, just don't put me or others in harms way. That means drinking and driving or drinking and drumming.
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<lol> Reminds me of a drummer from the Bad Old Days who would get into too much "Peruvian Marching Powder". His muscles would start to lock up, so he'd start dragging and then start griping at the band because he thought WE were all rushing.
Silly me, I thought cocaine was a stimulant and would make you rush, not drag. Go fiqure.....
 
#94
Haha Roy, that's awesome. It's hard to say what that stuff does to peoples time, but it certainly always makes them into a------s. I've played with a few musicians off on trips I would have rather not have joined them for too.
 
#95
edbass said:
Are you in denial? I think that recreational intoxicant use is a good idea, most people can handle it and it releases stress.
I party like the provebial "sailor on shore leave", just not when I'm working.

It's not professional.

And... if you need to be intoxicated to function, there's a good chance you actually need to stop.
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#98
Me?

I'm in a strange paradox.

I really like the taste of a well-crafted microbrew, but don't like being buzzed or drunk at all.

I'll typically have an ale with dinner before a show and then a pint of "dessert" sometime later on. Two pints over the course of a long evening doesn't seem to have any sort of "effects" on either my playing or cognitive ability. They're just a couple of tasty beverages to me.
 
#99
NWB said:
I'll typically have an ale with dinner before a show and then a pint of "dessert" sometime later on. Two pints over the course of a long evening doesn't seem to have any sort of "effects" on either my playing or cognitive ability. They're just a couple of tasty beverages to me.
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I can back up that perspective. I hate people who think that having any alcohol means you're getting drunk and/or have a drinking problem. My girlfriend can't grasp the notion of just drinking a beer or two and enjoying it simply for the value of taste. If I order a beer with dinner, she says "Why are you drinking!?" I say, "Because I like beer." To which she replies, "But we're having dinner, not at a party!". "Yeah, no ****, who said I'm getting drunk?!" (I don't say it quite like that, but my inner-self does)
Some people have this terrible preconceived idea that ANY alcohol means trouble. I hate when people think that way.
 
#100
MikeyFingers said:
I can back up that perspective. I hate people who think that having any alcohol means you're getting drunk and/or have a drinking problem. My girlfriend can't grasp the notion of just drinking a beer or two and enjoying it simply for the value of taste. If I order a beer with dinner, she says "Why are you drinking!?" I say, "Because I like beer." To which she replies, "But we're having dinner, not at a party!". "Yeah, no ****, who said I'm getting drunk?!" (I don't say it quite like that, but my inner-self does)
Some people have this terrible preconceived idea that ANY alcohol means trouble. I hate when people think that way.
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It seems that there are people who don't quite understand that a very small quantity of alcohol, particularly when taken with food, has only a neglible effect.

Most drugs; pot, and others, etc. have some significant effect, if even a small quantity is taken.

I don't think that "all or nothing" view applies to beer though.
 

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