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Precision "upgrades" that should be stock on new model - poll

Select a max of 3 that you think could/should be stock on a Pbass.

  • 21 (or more) fret neck

    Votes: 70 26.9%
  • Truss rod wheel at heel

    Votes: 122 46.9%
  • Drop tuner on E string

    Votes: 40 15.4%
  • Reverse P pickup option

    Votes: 67 25.8%
  • Better string tree for ADG strings

    Votes: 79 30.4%
  • Upgraded nut material

    Votes: 76 29.2%
  • Make Jazz profile necks optional

    Votes: 128 49.2%
  • 2 Jazz pickups on the P body

    Votes: 19 7.3%
  • A bound Aerodyne style P

    Votes: 15 5.8%
  • Put the jack on the side of the body

    Votes: 63 24.2%

  • Total voters
    260

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Before I ask this question, I know there is a large number of people that wouldn't upgrade a thing - the P bass is perfect as it is to many - but I'm wondering if you were going to put together your ideal P bass to make it a production model for Fender (or someone else), which mods or upgrades do you think you would want most to be included?

I'm just going to rhyme off a few things I've seen mentioned around here and see what people think.
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It can't be entirely silly if you feel that strongly about one of the options. This is a little different than the "build your dream bass" threads, in that it's asking for specific things that people think should be available on a production model.
 
The 21 fret neck is also silly, 24 would be better. :) I'm bummed I can't play Orion on my P
Hah. It's 21 (or more), but I can't see that body style making sense with a full 24 frets, even with a modified shortened lower horn.

I've learned many parts of Orion, but don't recall where it goes to the 24th fret?
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Silly thread, except for the reverse P. I can't for the life of me understand why "reverse" hasn't always been the standard from the start. Leo's one big mistake, if you ask me.
It really depends on your playing style. For someone like me who favors the lower 2 strings, this layout works fine. I get my thumpy grind and then when I do go up to the others a bit I get a nice bite for the faster lines I tend to play on them.
 
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You don't shorten the lower horn. You deepen the cutout.
I guess I wasn't entirely clear. You have to both deepen the cutout and shorten the horn at the same time, otherwise a longer lower horn stretching past a deeper cutout looks kind of stupid. I have a Power Jazz Special which has a 22 fret neck, and has this exact body change - the cutout is deeper and the horn has been moved back accordingly. Coincidentally, this bass also has a reverse P and side jack, killing a few birds with one stone.


The whole poll is silly without a none of the above category. At least give me carrots.
I ran out of options as it was, I wasn't going to waste one on "none of the above" :P
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My options aren't up there:

1. Truss rod adjustment at the headstock, where it belongs (yeah, some have it there, but they all should)
2. V-shaped neck profile or baseball bat profile in lieu of the flattened out road-kill profile Fender has settled on since 1958 or so.

If Fender sold a neck with those improvements (according to me), and it had small frets and the worn in feeling my RW has now, I would swap out the necks in about a minute and a quarter. The quarter is because I'm a little slow. Then my P would be the perfect P.
 
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The only thing I can think you left out was a Precision/Jazz option. <sniff> No love for the P/J config? :crying:
The PJ already exists with both P and J bodies. You can get PP pups on a Jazz body, but there no JJ option on the P, which I always thought would be a way to offer the tonal range of a J to people who may prefer the Precision body.
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Could? All of them.

Should? None of them. (Well... maybe an A string retainer)
Of course. It's not that this should be applied to any existing Precision models - they should stay as they are - but rather than come out with all these Signature bass models, I think having a "2015" model with bunch of common aftermarket tweaks or upgrades from this century makes some sense. The Modern Player line does some of these things, but they don't have a Precision in the offering. It's either Jazzes or Dimensions.
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It really depends on your playing style. For someone like me who favors the lower 2 strings, this layout works fine. I get my thumpy grind and then when I do go up to the others a bit I get a nice bite for the faster lines I tend to play on them.

I mean, I guess you can do what you want, but for me, I want all four of my strings to sound the same. I've never met a G strings that I actually liked playing on. And that's a problem with strings, mostly, but it's exacerbated by the pup placement. Doesn't make any sense when it would be so easy to turn around and make the problem better.