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Precision "upgrades" that should be stock on new model - poll

Select a max of 3 that you think could/should be stock on a Pbass.

  • 21 (or more) fret neck

    Votes: 70 26.9%
  • Truss rod wheel at heel

    Votes: 122 46.9%
  • Drop tuner on E string

    Votes: 40 15.4%
  • Reverse P pickup option

    Votes: 67 25.8%
  • Better string tree for ADG strings

    Votes: 79 30.4%
  • Upgraded nut material

    Votes: 76 29.2%
  • Make Jazz profile necks optional

    Votes: 128 49.2%
  • 2 Jazz pickups on the P body

    Votes: 19 7.3%
  • A bound Aerodyne style P

    Votes: 15 5.8%
  • Put the jack on the side of the body

    Votes: 63 24.2%

  • Total voters
    260
In my mind, there are only 2 things a P-bass should have as stock "upgrades" from the factory.

1. String tree that addresses the open A issues you get from the flat headstock design flaw.
2. Adjustable saddle bridge. Threaded or American style. Both would address issues with string spacing & pick-up alignment on the cheaper models.

Love it! :thumbsup:

I almost bought a set of threaded barrels the other week off Amazon. Specifically, the E-A-three thread/D-G-four thread types they use on the current American Standards. Sadly, they seem to have sold out, so I'll keep on lookin'.
 
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In my mind, there are only 2 things a P-bass should have as stock "upgrades" from the factory.

1. String tree that addresses the open A issues you get from the flat headstock design flaw.
2. Adjustable saddle bridge. Threaded or American style. Both would address issues with string spacing & pick-up alignment on the cheaper models.


I don't get #1. I started playing Fender basses in 1965, and I've never had a problem with playing open strings on a Fender bass. This includes the A string.
 
I voted for better string tree, jazz profile neck and jack on the side. The jazz profile neck thing I could take or leave, but it would be a nice option and certainly a popular one. The other two are notable issues for me with every Fender Precision I've owned.
 
I don't get #1. I started playing Fender basses in 1965, and I've never had a problem with playing open strings on a Fender bass. This includes the A string.
Wrap any string the standard 2.5 wraps around the A post & then play an open A. There will be an audible ringing coming from the headstock. It won't be amplified, but you can hear it acoustically. It's due to the break angle being too shallow over the nut. Wrapping it extra can fix the issue, but Fender really should address this on more basses than just the Am Dlx series.
 
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I mean, I guess you can do what you want, but for me, I want all four of my strings to sound the same. I've never met a G strings that I actually liked playing on. And that's a problem with strings, mostly, but it's exacerbated by the pup placement. Doesn't make any sense when it would be so easy to turn around and make the problem better.
Related to this, why do people complain about reversing a P, but never angling a J? :P
 
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Wrap any string the standard 2.5 wraps around the A post & then play an open A. There will be an audible ringing coming from the headstock. It won't be amplified, but you can hear it acoustically. It's due to the break angle being too shallow over the nut. Wrapping it extra can fix the issue, but Fender really should address this on more basses than just the Am Dlx series.

First, I've never heard of a 2.5 wrap rule. That's just silly. Wrap the strings to the bottom of the post and they work just fine. Second, who cares if there is an audible ringing coming form the headstock (which I have never heard), if it isn't amplified. As far as I'm concerned this is a non-issue. YMMV.
 
I think what he's referring to is that the break angle on the A is typically different from the other 3 strings.

The E is close to the nut and breaks fairly sharply, while the A is off on its own, too far away to break at an angle similar to the E and no other means to guide it, as was done with the string tree for the D and G strings. Look at the poll and it's pretty clear other people find this to be an area that more attention could be paid.
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First, I've never heard of a 2.5 wrap rule. That's just silly. Wrap the strings to the bottom of the post and they work just fine. Second, who cares if there is an audible ringing coming form the headstock (which I have never heard), if it isn't amplified. As far as I'm concerned this is a non-issue. YMMV.
If you're wrapping to the bottom of the post, you're not following the "correct" procedure. You are following the correct procedure to eliminate the issue, though. :P
 
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Truss rod wheel, improved string tree, and jack on the side of the body - in that order. The latter only because I worry about the pickguard breaking, I do like the current location otherwise.
The pickguard issue is a non-issue if you loop your cable through your strap. :) Also has the benefit of not pulling your cable out of your jack if you snag it.
 
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The pickguard issue is a non-issue if you loop your cable through your strap. :) Also has the benefit of not pulling your cable out of your jack if you snag it.

I always do that - even playing at home! With a decent Switchcraft jack in, though, it feels like the guard is pulling a little whenever I unplug - it's probably a non-issue, but would be my third choice out of the list.

It's a long way behind the truss rod wheel in my priorities, though!
 
Mine isn't on there either... Bridge with easily adjustable mutes for each string (like on the Stingray classics)... Or at least SOMEONE shod make this aftermarket... Especially considering this is THE bass known for being historically played with foam muted strings...

I'd just like to be able to turn the mute on or off without having to remove an ashtray cover every time... It's only been 63 years, they'll get around to it I'm sure... Lol


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Before I ask this question, I know there is a large number of people that wouldn't upgrade a thing - the P bass is perfect as it is to many - but I'm wondering if you were going to put together your ideal P bass to make it a production model for Fender (or someone else), which mods or upgrades do you think you would want most to be included?

I'm just going to rhyme off a few things I've seen mentioned around here and see what people think.
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X2.

I use Warmoth P bodies routed for JJ pickups.

My JJ and PJ basses have P bodies and J necks.

G&L and Yamaha have offered P style bodies with JJ pickups, why not Fender.