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Pro Tools vs. Logic

Pro Tools or Logic?

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    70
#21
nataku said:
I learned how to record with protools, and I still love it for tracking. Now that I learned how to mix in logic, I like it a bunch more, but I'm still probably better with protools. I hate dealing with the latency issues in logic, but I think in the future it will be industry standard.
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What latency issues are you getting? Record latency on native systems is not that much to do with the program you use, its your hardware/driver/computer etc. And with Plug in delay compensation as standard Logic is overall a little LESS latent compared to LE.

If you are comparing to HD, the reason pro tools HD is near 0 latency is again the hardware, if you buy hardware for logic that has good hardware monitoring capabilites it will be just as quick as PT HD!
 
#22
project_c said:
Given that Apple makes Logic, you can expect it to work well on Mac's without too much fuss.
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This is not always true for Apple Applications and hardware, nor strictly true in this case, it was acquired and redeveloped. Apple, like many other leading hardware/software 'manufacturers' depend very heavily on ODM contributions.

Apple has enough trouble trying to get their OS to work happily for everyone, since 10.6.3 onwards there have been lots of issues.

One thing needs to be mentioned if you are using PT, it takes a while for PT to be up to scratch if Apple has a new OS release; the delay if any, is less or zero with Logic at the present time.
For that reason, many people, myself included are quite happy to use an older stable OS version, and I was using 10.3.9 with PT without the need or desire to upgrade for a long time. I don't like some of the instrument icons in the Logic interface, it looks a bit unprofessional but I am moving to use Logic now, the motivation being the availability of Apogee hardware at a decent price.
 
#25
For editing audio files, hands down Pro Tools. Logic is clunky clunky clunky.

Logic is cheap, stable, and you can use a different interface.

But, I do alot of editing and have been using Pro Tools for years and years so I ultimately vote for Pro Tools.
 
#26
I voted for ProTools.

As a professional recording bassist, ProTools is like breathing air. I see it everyday & it works great!

Logic is probably a little easier & cheaper for hobbyists to get into, but ProTools is still the professional unchallenged king of DAW's.
 
#27
synaesthesia said:
This is not always true for Apple Applications and hardware, nor strictly true in this case, it was acquired and redeveloped.
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True, (I was using the Emagic versions of Logic way before Apple took over so I remember the older versions well) - but given that Apple more or less re-designed or at least optimised Logic from the ground up, and it has been designed by Apple to run on Apple machines, it's a no brainer as far as I'm concerned if you're looking for trouble free recording in an Apple Mac environment.

There are - and always will be - minor glitches and problems with all the big guns - Protools, Cubase, Digital Performer, etc all have their occasional hiccups, but that is not surprising, given that these applications have become so many things to so many different people and situations. There are endless ways to record, arrange, compose and perform with these applications, and these apps have to be able to deal with any and all situations. Photoshop has the same issues when it comes to graphics - 99.9% of users use it with no issues and never even notice the glitches, but something inevitably always comes up - and then gets fixed in future updates. It's just the transient nature of software, and it's still a small price to pay for having an entire studio in a tiny box that you can carry around with you wherever you go.

From my experience, the latest versions of Logic - from a bass player's point of view anyway - have all worked like a dream. Recording is great, arranging is easy, the presets are simple and sound good, the Jam packs are fun and inspiring, and most importantly, the Flex polyphonic mode has the best time-stretching algorithms I've ever heard anywhere.
Even the built in Bass Amp plug-in sounds pretty good in a mix.

Also, as far as USB vs FW is concerned - in my experience, FW is a lot less reliable than USB, and there are NO issues whatsoever with USB latency - my Motu Microbook USB interface works like a dream, whereas my old Alesis IO14 FW interface was an absolute joke. It crashed daily, it messed with the FW settings on my Mac regularly, and the sound quality was inferior to the Motu. It was enough to put me off using FW interfaces ever again. (just my experience - YMMV.)
 
#30
If one is to choose between products that has a hardware requirement, I choose the Mac requirement.

When it comes down to the interface/clunkiness of a product being the deciding factor over quality of the programming then the argument really loses credibility. If you NEED easy editing then dump your files into garageband, which is now based on Logic.

I learned on ProTools and have no idea why it's the industry standard. Clinging to that instead of getting the superior product seems silly to me.

In the end it's what works for the individual, but where one has a proprietary set of hardware and the other requires a more expensive computer, it seems smart to get the more expensive (and generally better) computer.
 
#32
I went out & bot the Apogee Duet & will learn using Garageband on my Macbook Pro as a kick off point for my home bass recording. The "logic" being - I now have a great little interface & have the option of upgrade in the (logic) software. I also have no "unlearning" to deal with. Any pointers? Thanks.
B.
PS: I will cast a vote for Logic based on the commitment I have now made.
 
#33
I was trying to use an MBox with Logic on my MacBook Pro unibody... it almost worked but in reality it didn't and was a big mistake. I got an Apogee Duet and the combination with Logic is awesome. Creativity is very unencumbered and much more free-flowing in Logic.
 
#34
ProTools all the way for me. Been using it for years and years, have used Logic a few times but don't seee enough in it to change over.

Digidesign do have the tendency to screw themselves sometimes, by some of the restrictions they build into the software, but hopefully they'll see the LE home studio is the future and rev it up a little. For LE users, check out this to overcome latency, very handy piece of kit until protools build in time compensation.
 
#35
I know I am late in posting but for me Logic is best. I used Nuendo for five years Pro Tools four maybe 6 months and Logic for at least 3 years now and I can't see my self using anything else. I jut like the ease of Logics workflow and the choice to use whatever interface that I choose.
 
#36
i am an atrist and a sound engineer, although not pro by any means. but i did go to a vocational school for music tech. and we had the option of using both logic and protools. i perfer protools. it could be that i didnt give logic alot of time. i just love how simple the plug in in protools are to use and just the over all screen lay out.
 
#38
I won't go into which is "better", because that's subjective and what's better for me might not be for someone else, but I prefer Logic. I think PT has more user friendly editing and the obvious advantage of having a lot of plugins geared towards it since it has become an "industry standard", but there are a lot of utilitarian functions that Logic has for WAY less money than the equivalent in PT. Latency compensation for both plugins and I/O interfacing with outboard gear is nailed down with the latest update of Logic 9 Pro/Studio. To get that with PT you have to go to an HD system, which not only costs more, but requires expensive hardware components that add up to a gigantic price gap. I've read a lot of people saying that most plugins aren't made for Logic and that's just not true. Most commercial plugins are available in AU format and because it's Native, it's usually far less expensive than those made expressly for PT and usually more CPU friendly. It is true that not being able to use VST rules out a huge amount of free plugins available online, but I honestly just don't care about that at all. Logic Studio comes with a lot of quality plugins and virtual instruments and a few well thought out purchases can go a long way.

That's my take on it, mostly to do with value vs pricing. Every 6 months to a year that goes by Logic closes the gap on a lot of the complaints people used to have comparing to PT HD (why even bother comparing it to the lower end versions? At this point NONE of them have any latency compensation, which is a deal breaker for me) and I think eventually it's going to come down to popularity (the "industry standard" argument), which is probably the worst standard to choose a DAW by, unless you own a commercial studio and you're already rich or don't mind incurring enormous debt.

Like I said though, other people may have different wants and needs which could make a PT system much more attractive to them, so I won't say it's "better".
 

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