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PYPB 44: ...like Tetris with boxes, wires and cables

Oops, that's my fault as well: I connected you with the TBer looking to move it ;)
It looks like there's just enough negative space left to fit the SBM back in with some reorganizing. I always enjoy that kind of challenge. It's the wiring that I find unpleasant.

The answer was fitting the SBM underneath with the BBA. :D

The great thing was that no additional power wiring was needed since the original 18v plug was tucked away waiting for me to figure it out.
 
Been working on this for a while, finally got all the bits and wires I needed to finish, including up-sizing the board.
This is to be my new and improved ambient/drone/space-metal board.
Sorry for the untidiness, I just hooked it up. :)

in > bass/mid filtering-buffering > 5ch effects switcher (drive/distortion/fuzz/phaser/delay+reverb) > EQ/preamp/delay+reverb > 2ch effects switcher (sampler/looper) > 3band filter/dual-tube preamp > amp/cab simulator + comp/limiter > sampler/looper/recorder > out

There's also a volume pedal to be inserted somewhere in the chain, and a dual expression pedal for two of the phasers.

Now, to dial everything in, assign buttons, save presets, etc...

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Got a Bass Whammy, took way too long to redo the board.
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Did myself a favor and drew out signal flow so I didn’t screw anything up.
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I’ve had the Temple Audio setup for a while and I don’t really recommend it. It’s a PITA to replace the adhesive on reused plates. There’s not as much freedom in placement as one might think. I have to take into account mounting the PSU because I’m using the screws and standoffs that Cioks supplies and that means I can’t mount pedals over the PSU. There’s no good solution for cable management.

I love the board mounted jacks and the fact that how obnoxious it is to change the layout makes me less likely to buy and flip pedals. If I do another reorg, I’ll probably go back to a Pedaltrain setup.

I hear you...we all end up gravitating back to velcro on a board. It's the least liked but unfortunatly best technology available to us.
 
I hear you...we all end up gravitating back to velcro on a board. It's the least liked but unfortunatly best technology available to us.
I've considered going to Dual Lock at times. I use it for some of my under-board items, but not the main pedals on top. However, I can't imagine other options involving screwing them down, etc.
 
I hear you...we all end up gravitating back to velcro on a board. It's the least liked but unfortunatly best technology available to us.
I migrated to the TA setup because I thought I would have more flexibility with layout (no big gaps in between rails, etc). It was between this at Rockboard, but TA won out because it's a little more popular and I read, at the time, enough good things to convince me. What I really like about the TA setup is the modules. Board-mounted power cable input with on/off switch, input and output jacks. I know there's aftermarket stuff to make this happen with a Pedaltrain, but they're not ideal and I don't really want to have to drill holes to mount them.
I've considered going to Dual Lock at times. I use it for some of my under-board items, but not the main pedals on top. However, I can't imagine other options involving screwing them down, etc.
Dual Lock is great for under the board. I tried it on top of a homemade Nano once, but two strips across was too strong. I've now learned there are different strengths of Dual Lock, so maybe the slightly weaker hold would work better. I like the security and cleanliness of the TA setup, and the hassle of changing things up has slowed down my flipping habits for the better, but I'm over it at this point.
Dual lock is much sturdier but I know quite a few people going to nano tape…
That's the stuff that's not "sticky," right? Are people really using it for boards? I'm intrigued, but I imagine it's probably even more of a cat hair magnet than Velcro.
 
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I migrated to the TA setup because I thought I would have more flexibility with layout (no big gaps in between rails, etc). It was between this at Rockboard, but TA won out because it's a little more popular and I read, at the time, enough good things to convince me. What I really like about the TA setup is the modules. Board-mounted power cable input with on/off switch, input and output jacks. I know there's aftermarket stuff to make this happen with a Pedaltrain, but they're not ideal and I don't really want to have to drill holes to mount them.

Dual Lock is great for under the board. I tried it on top of a homemade Nano once, but two strips across was too strong. I've now learned there are different strengths of Dual Lock, so maybe the slightly weaker hold would work better. I like the security and cleanliness of the TA setup, and the hassle of changing things up has slowed down my flipping habits for the better, but I'm over it at this point.

That's the stuff that's not "sticky," right? Are people really using it for boards? I'm intrigued, but I imagine it's probably even more of a cat hair magnet than Velcro.
Would definitely be a cat hair magnet - you wouldn’t use dual lock or nano the same as Velcro - as you mentioned dual lock is way too strong to put a strip all the way across - 1 inch strips in the corners is more than enough. Nano tape is put across the pedal cut to size and stick it to the board that way.

I’m trying the aclam board right now and while it does work without any adhesives, it eats a lot of real estate between pedals…
 
Would definitely be a cat hair magnet - you wouldn’t use dual lock or nano the same as Velcro - as you mentioned dual lock is way too strong to put a strip all the way across - 1 inch strips in the corners is more than enough. Nano tape is put across the pedal cut to size and stick it to the board that way.

I’m trying the aclam board right now and while it does work without ant adhesives, it eats a lot of real estate between pedals…
Yeah, the adhesive-free options like Aclam are cool, but usually take up a lot of space and limit arrangement options.

Rockboard has QuickMount plates that screw on to a pedals stock screw holes, but that still limits arrangement capabilities, and I haven't seen a US distributor so they're like $20 a plate.
 
Current home/recording rig. Removed the Ottobit, Mood and Thermae. For now. Added back in the Frantabit. The Strymon Timeline is new to me - quite the Father’s Day gift. This thing is incredible, but (and I’m sure I’m not alone here) it makes me want to get the “individual” Strymon delays to delve deeper into each one. Also plugged back in the Aguilar Octamizer. How about this dude, right? I love the OC-2 sound as much as the next guy, but its nice to have another octaver option that sounds nothing like an OC-2. I don’t think it gets enough appreciation. Lastly, if anyone has recommendations on what size Pedaltrain I’d need for this setup, I would be grateful - my bigger board is a Temple and I’m kinda done with it.

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Current home/recording rig. Removed the Ottobit, Mood and Thermae. For now. Added back in the Frantabit. The Strymon Timeline is new to me - quite the Father’s Day gift. This thing is incredible, but (and I’m sure I’m not alone here) it makes me want to get the “individual” Strymon delays to delve deeper into each one. Also plugged back in the Aguilar Octamizer. How about this dude, right? I love the OC-2 sound as much as the next guy, but its nice to have another octaver option that sounds nothing like an OC-2. I don’t think it gets enough appreciation. Lastly, if anyone has recommendations on what size Pedaltrain I’d need for this setup, I would be grateful - my bigger board is a Temple and I’m kinda done with it.

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Have to agree about the octaver tone. I've settled that just like filters, it's ok to have more than one.
 
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Lastly, if anyone has recommendations on what size Pedaltrain I’d need for this setup, I would be grateful - my bigger board is a Temple and I’m kinda done with it.

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Nice collection. I'm also a Temple user that's over it. My suggestion is to take some measurements and figure out what you need. At a glance, maybe the Novo 32 would suit your needs. I've drawn out the dimensions of different boards on a piece of cardboard to determine layout before buying a board and Velcroing things down.
 
I'm going to move from a Pedaltrain to a Temple board, and have zero interest in their mounting plates. I like the side plates and I/O options mainly, for aesthetic reasons/routing options. Going to be fun putting it together, and plan on using dual lock, so I have some difficult decisions on what is staying and going.

I'll keep the Metro16 around for a second minimal board, but the Novo18 will be put away.
 
I'm going to move from a Pedaltrain to a Temple board, and have zero interest in their mounting plates. I like the side plates and I/O options mainly, for aesthetic reasons/routing options. Going to be fun putting it together, and plan on using dual lock, so I have some difficult decisions on what is staying and going.

I'll keep the Metro16 around for a second minimal board, but the Novo18 will be put away.
At that point, just get a board from a different company. You're going to have exposed adhesive on the underside that's going to collect crud. The routing options kind of suck; maybe it's just my pedals, but I feel like the holes for cables are not placed in useful locations. The modules are excellent, but overpriced - every element of the Temple Audio environment is. YMMV but I would not suggest switching to a TA setup.
Another option to consider is Pedalboard Playground. It's a very good online source for playing Pedal Tetris.
The only problem with some of the online pedalboard planning sites is that they don't have any of the niche brands, so then you're scrolling through trying to find a similarly sized pedal as a placeholder. I recall seeing one that let you put down custom sized boxes, but I don't remember which site that was.
 
At that point, just get a board from a different company. You're going to have exposed adhesive on the underside that's going to collect crud. The routing options kind of suck; maybe it's just my pedals, but I feel like the holes for cables are not placed in useful locations. The modules are excellent, but overpriced - every element of the Temple Audio environment is. YMMV but I would not suggest switching to a TA setup.

The only problem with some of the online pedalboard planning sites is that they don't have any of the niche brands, so then you're scrolling through trying to find a similarly sized pedal as a placeholder. I recall seeing one that let you put down custom sized boxes, but I don't remember which site that was.
I'm not positive, but I think PP allows you to resize most parameters.
 
I'm not positive, but I think PP allows you to resize most parameters.
Just looked it up and that's the one I was thinking of. That's insanely handy for putting on oddly sized pedals. One thing you could also do is measure the dimensions of your pedals including cables plugged in so you have an even more accurate layout because you've taken into account how much space you need for cabling.
 
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Current state of affairs... rearranged the layout to accomodate the oh-so-big-but-oh-so-marvelous-sounding MXR Stereo Chorus and keep everything else on board.

Toying with idea of putting a mini BBE Sonic maximizer in the middle spot, right after the HPF in the chain signal. Anyone doing that, cleaning up lower freqs and exciting them after ?


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