Question about portable mixers

[soong]

Hi all,

Looking to purchase this mixer for small duo applications:

I notice it doesn't have an input for any foldback or monitoring. Could I plug a powered speaker into the 'headphones' out and use that as a monitor out?

Thanks.

 

[Doner Designs]

You can probably find an owners manual on the Yamaha website.

 

[musicman7722]

Probably not, I have had little success with running a powered speaker off of a headphone out. If it was a stereo board with a stereo control you could pan everything to one side and run the second to mons. I would upgrade just a little bit.

 

[modulusman]

I have a MG10xu and just tried it using a Yamaha DBR12. It doesn't work.

 

[soong]

You can probably find an owners manual on the Yamaha website.

Nothing mentioned on the manual.

I have a MG10xu and just tried it using a Yamaha DBR12. It doesn't work.

So does that mean this line of mixers doesn't have any monitor out feature? Looks like I might pass...

 

[Dogbertday]

If you're just running vocals anyway, just send left to FOH and right to the monitor boxes. Adjust monitor volume on the powered speaker.

Or get something better. What you posted looks likebsomethibg a keyboard player would use to mix all his boards and send them to the mixer.

 

[modulusman]

Nothing mentioned on the manual.



So does that mean this line of mixers doesn't have any monitor out feature? Looks like I might pass...

I'm sure that the bigger ones in the line up do.

 

[DWBass]

If you want monitoring capabilities, you'll need a more full featured mixer.

 

[Frankjohnson]

Why cut yourself short - get something that will do what you need - and more than the bare minimum. You can always use it for more that the duo

 

[Bufalo]

Or if you do want to stay in the same class, the Mackie ProFX4 has a dedicated monitor channel.

 

[And I]

you could use the XLR outs for FOH and the 1/4" outs for monitors. But it would be better to get a mixer than has an aux / monitor send so you can have a different mix in your monitors if you want to.

 

[RustyAxe]

For bare bones on a budget, yes it'll work. First, you work in mono, not stereo. You'll use the headphone out with a TRS cable to your monitor. You'll need to experiment with how much gain you use on the headphone out (start with minimum) since the speaker is expecting a line or mic level signal (lower than a headphone signal by quite a bit). If the output of the mixer is still too hot you could add a -10db or -20db pad in-line. You could spend a little more money and get something more appropriate ... look for something used, many are "upgrading" to digital mixers and you can find some great deals on used analog mixers.

 

[slamjet]

My .02, because I can...

If that's what your budget dictates then definitely go for it but I would suggest you put in a few more $$$. I have an Allen & Heath ZED10Fx that I've been using the past few years and it's been an absolute charm. Quiet, portable, decent built in effects, and more inputs in a small form factor.

However, I almost have enough funds to go digital. When I do, I'm going to retire all my boards.

You may want to look into getting a Behringer X Air XR12:

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It has all the effects you would want/need built in, it's portable and it can be used in studio or live (so I've been reading), and dirt cheap considering everything it offers. It's also getting pretty good reviews. If you're needing multi-track recording, the XR18 has 18 track DAW output via USB.

In any case, you may want to look forward just a tad so that what you get today will not hobble you in the near future.

 

[DavC]

the Headphone output is tooooo hot ... to high voltage .!

i'd get a tiny bit bigger mixer ... a few more features and extra channels never hurt ... and really shouldn't cost much more ..!

the mixer pictured does have 2 sets of outputs ... XLR and 1/4 stereo outs ... you could use the ones that aren't used for the mains to go to a powered speaker or 2 ... it should have it's own volume control ...

 

[ksm]

My .02, because I can...

If that's what your budget dictates then definitely go for it but I would suggest you put in a few more $$$. I have an Allen & Heath ZED10Fx that I've been using the past few years and it's been an absolute charm. Quiet, portable, decent built in effects, and more inputs in a small form factor.

I have the zed10fx as well and it was one of my smarter purchases. My fav features are the ability to plug a bass directly in, and no wall wart (real power cord). I use it every day.

 

[Slough Feg Bass]

I've been using a Soundcraft Notepad for a few years now, and it does the job in spades.

All the ins & outs I need, plus effects, routing options, etc. in a nice tidy package.

The preamps sound great, the EQ does what it is supposed to.

thumbs up !

 

[ChefKen]

This cheap 12 channel would do the trick....paid 60 bucks used.

 

[modulusman]

For bare bones on a budget, yes it'll work. First, you work in mono, not stereo. You'll use the headphone out with a TRS cable to your monitor. You'll need to experiment with how much gain you use on the headphone out (start with minimum) since the speaker is expecting a line or mic level signal (lower than a headphone signal by quite a bit). If the output of the mixer is still too hot you could add a -10db or -20db pad in-line. You could spend a little more money and get something more appropriate ... look for something used, many are "upgrading" to digital mixers and you can find some great deals on used analog mixers.

Did you read my post earlier? I have the mixer and a speaker sitting right by my computer. I can barely get any volume with the gain turned all the way up, monitor phone master all the way up, and the channel level cranked. I'm using a TRS to male xlr.

 

[RustyAxe]

Did you read my post earlier? I have the mixer and a speaker sitting right by my computer. I can barely get any volume with the gain turned all the way up, monitor phone master all the way up, and the channel level cranked. I'm using a TRS to male xlr.

That really doesn't make sense. I would think, if anything, the phones out would overdrive the speaker input. This article seems to indicate that's not the case ... and that it WILL work. Headphone outputs used as line outputs for line level gear

No doubt, a better mixer would be a better plan for the OP's use.

 

[Bob Lee (QSC)]

For bare bones on a budget, yes it'll work. First, you work in mono, not stereo. You'll use the headphone out with a TRS cable to your monitor. You'll need to experiment with how much gain you use on the headphone out (start with minimum) since the speaker is expecting a line or mic level signal (lower than a headphone signal by quite a bit). If the output of the mixer is still too hot you could add a -10db or -20db pad in-line. You could spend a little more money and get something more appropriate ... look for something used, many are "upgrading" to digital mixers and you can find some great deals on used analog mixers.

It won't quite work that easily. The TRS jack on a headphone output puts the right and left signals on the tip and ring, and the common on the sleeve. A balanced TRS input, on the other hand, uses tip and ring only for the signal, and responds only to the difference in voltage between them. Therefore, a stereo pair of signals at one end will turn into a right-minus-left mess at the other.