Question about reproducing EQ settings

[Deleted member 394512]

What are you using for monitoring the Logic DAW?

Two speakers, even playing back a mono signal, vs a bass amp with a driver and cabinet designed for bass guitar is so different from each other, that matching just that plugin curve isn't going to get you all the way where you want to be.

Use your ears and work your amp and instrument to see how close you get. I bet you find a better tone than what you are used to. Use a pedal or two as needed.

 

[dbsfgyd1]

I've recently purchased an amplifier after playing through an interface and Logic for years. I used to play with the "Jazz Bass" EQ preset in Logic:

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How would I go about reproducing these EQ settings on my amplifier? It's a Milkman - Volume, Treble, Middle and Bass.

I once asked the builder to tell me more about the amplifier and EQ. He said flat would be all knobs at 10 ("the EQ is subtractive") and that "it's basically just a Fender preamp into the Class D supply."

Thanks!

I’m, not so sure about that advice. I’m no sound engineer, I’m just a bassist. My guess is the more defined your EQ adjustment is, the higher the likelyhood you can reach your goal. Just remember, that is just one part. The reproduction of that signal is another story, and may require a different EQ setting to arrive at the same sound.

 

[Deleted member 271037]

Even if you find a fully parametric eq that can replicate these eq curves 100% it won't sound the same. The amp itself will color your tone and your cab/speakers will color the tone a LOT.

The ONLY way to do this is to use your ears and dial in the tone as close as you can get. No one can tell you how to set your tone controls without actually hearing your amp and also hear your reference tone.

Did you use an amp+cabsim plugin with these eq curves? If you you will never even get close. A clean/dry DI bass will always have a completely different tone to a bass that's played through an amp/cab. Cabs will especially have a significant hi-end roll off compared to a DI'd bass.

Besides, plugin eq presets are usually junk anyway. Eq should always be set by ear, not by selecting a preset from a menu. A preset like this MIGHT sound great with some basses in some songs/arrangements and sound horrible with other basses and/or other songs/arrangements.

Chances are you will end up with a better tone if you just dial in your amp by ear. Anything else would in fact be totally pointless IMO.

Btw, if the preamp and tone stack is "basically just a Fender preamp" it won' be even remotely flat with "all knobs at 10" like your builder told you. That would give you a VERY mid scooped tone with a Fender tone stack. A Fender tone stack would be closest to flat (but still a bit mid-scooped) with the mids all the way up and bass+treble all the way down. It won't necessarily sound best that way though...

Use your ears. No one can give you any kind of meaningful advice about your eq settings without actually being in the room with you.

 

[semiprohooker]

To start with.... You don't. You plug it in and you fiddle with it until it sounds good to you. Then you use a different bass and think it sounds terrible and start again. Lol. Seriously though, just twist the knobs till it sounds good. Looking at that curve, expect your mids to be turned up considerably more than the others.

Now, if you really want to try and replicate the sound.... Buy an RTA mic and play through your current listening environment with it running and a scope on. Then do your best to mimic the placement of the RTA mic to your amp and play and adjust while watching the scope. This won't prove to be an exact science, but will get you as close as possible as easily as possible. That said, it would be a tremendous waste of time in my opinion.

 

[Nashrakh]

Btw, if the preamp and tone stack is "basically just a Fender preamp" it won' be even remotely flat with "all knobs at 10" like your builder told you. That would give you a VERY mid scooped tone with a Fender tone stack. A Fender tone stack would be closest to flat (but still a bit mid-scooped) with the mids all the way up and bass+treble all the way down. It won't necessarily sound best that way though...

This reminds me of the Traynor YBA-200 I have. Traynor themselves describe the tone stack as fully passive, while others (on TB, specifically) describe it as a Fender tone stack. So much confusion about it, and to this day I do not know which one of the two is the case. I dial it in by ear.

 

[Chris Chong]

Path1: Logic EQ -> monitor speaker + room acoustic

Path2: amp EQ to match logic EQ -> bass amp speaker cabinet + room acoustic

even with the same EQ settings the speakers will impose a different EQ. Your distance from the speakers, speaker height to ear level and room acoustic etc would affect the sound you are hearing.

 

[tvbop]

Ears, not charts and graphs.

This. You can never reproduce some other tone using maths.

 

[agedhorse]

This. You can never reproduce some other tone using maths.

Well you can if you use enough complex math, but at that point it becomes an engineering project. It’s the basis of how we design for a specific tone or tone family.

 

[pepj]

Imv, its all about that mid control and how it works on that stack. So, for 1st base, I'd go 12 o'clock on the dial for bass and treble...maybe 1 o'clock.
Then I'd play with the mid to see where the scoop came in most effectively for your taste.
You may have to dial more or less bass and treble but do both incrementally and gradually.

I think you should definitely get a classic sound out on this as long as your Jazz bass is traditional sounding in the first place, imv.