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Question...

When buying/selling an instrument... "condition MATTERS."
But then... "P(l)ayers, are willing to shell out EXTRA, for RELICED instruments...

Not judging.

Just trying to understand.

HELP?


All I need to “understand” is I don’t like “reliced” instruments. So I don’t buy them.

But why not think of it this way when it comes to mental weirdnesses like you’re talking about. It’s all comes down to how you look at things.

Kind of like the old Benny Hill routine where he checks into a spa and glances at a well endowed woman whose shirt unexpectedly comes unbuttoned to reveal a lacy bra while she’s struggling down the hall with a very large suitcase. The woman calls him a “perv” and promptly slaps his face.

A short while later he runs into the same woman by the pool wearing a string bikini that covers maybe a 20th as much of her body as what he saw previously. This time she smiles at him and says “Hi!”

It all depends on the person and the context.
 
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I believe that people buy the relied style to make themselves look more experienced. "That guy must have been playing for years! He wore all the paint off his bass."

Hahahaha. I actually make fun out of my self by saying some thing similar to this. It goes more like this.

“Holy S**t, that guy must play the hell outa that thing.”
 
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years ago, when i was a teenager or in my early twenties, pristine new jeans were SO square. we'd run our jeans through the washer and dryer over and over and over or run them over with a car (that was my idea) several times or both. then they looked broken in, and to be fair, they were a lot less stiff.
 
When buying/selling an instrument... "condition MATTERS."
But then... "P(l)ayers, are willing to shell out EXTRA, for RELICED instruments...

Not judging.

Just trying to understand.

HELP?

Don't waste your time understanding others, we all have different things that "speak" to us about a bass. My .02 is to focus on what speaks to you...;)

Good Luck!
 
Why don't people go around calling someone who just bought a beat up '64 jazz a poser? That person did not contribute one thing to the wear and damage. They just slapped 5 figures on a table and walked out with it and everyone cheers and applauds them for it
That’s a good point. There’s just as much misrepresentation happening if you just bought a legit 61 jazz as there is with just buying a 2018 Flea signature bass.
 
The big advantage of relic'ed instruments is this: That first ding or scratch YOU give it won't hurt as much...
Not much of a fan of relic'ed or mojo'ed (well used, not made that way) instruments, although I've been known to take a Scotch Brite to the back of the neck to remove stickiness...
And yes, every ding hurts... A LOT!!!

Diego
 
In my case, all damage=bad. To me, there's no such thing as Mojo.

Agree. It’s something to put up with (or learn to accept) if you find yourself buying used. Sometimes it’s amusing purely for the entertainment of hearing the story or (more likely) the tall tale behind how it got that way.

But IMO heavy wear or cosmetic damage is hardly something to wish for in an instrument.
 
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When buying/selling an instrument... "condition MATTERS."
But then... "P(l)ayers, are willing to shell out EXTRA, for RELICED instruments...

Not judging.

Just trying to understand.

HELP?
Different people like different basses for different reasons. Hope this helps
 
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I would never pay extra for relicing, (have never bought a new 'relic') but I also wouldn't discard a great instrument just because it has a factory-faux-relicing job. I prefer mint-condition instruments, but not all of mine have managed to stay that way!

here's the condition of all the instruments I have, at least the ones that I can remember offhand.
ALL ARE PLAYABLE... :)
1888 - thrashed
1951 - beat up
1952 - fair, nice patina
1979 - EX+
1981 - VG
1990 - Mint
1994 - EX+
1997 - EX+
1997 - EX+
2001 - Mint
2002 - VG++
2004 - VG++
2011 - Mint
2013 - Mint
2014 - Mint
2014 - Mint
2014 - Mint
2014 - Mint
2015 - Mint
2016 - Mint
2017 - Mint
 
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A friend of mine got in a whole heap o' trouble for opining on the subject...
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Below is the response and response to the response:
Crystal Speaks
This Tak was a gift to me, from Melissa Etheridge [“Last Call: Someday You’ll Regret That Relic Job,”
November 2013]. I played it on television in front of 30 million people. Nothing fake about that.
It’s special to me, so I decided to put it on the cover of my second studio release,
which was produced by the badass Steve Berlin of Los Lobos. This Tak plays like a dream,
who gives a [expletive] what it looks like? People who write blogs should probably check the
facts before they go and say things that are rude and extremely hurtful. And by the way,
I’ve put holes in my Martin that I played for 8-12 hours a day in the subways of Chicago.
I know what a weathered guitar looks, plays, and feels like. Willie wouldn’t judge someone the way you have.
Willie warrants peace. Have a nice day!
—Crystal Bowersox, via premierguitar.com

I apologize to Crystal Bowersox or anyone offended by my comments about the relic job on her guitar.
Although I researched this Takamine, I could not find its origin. As it turns out,
this guitar was a very cool and generous gift from Melissa Etheridge.
However, this does not change the fact that this guitar remains an example of unbelievable
relic work that could not occur through 50 years of hard gigs.
Relic jobs, much like stickers, custom scratch pads, and knobs, are just embellishments that many of
us use to make our guitars unique. I’m not condemning anyone’s aesthetic decisions—to each their own.
That said, the process is supposed to make new guitars look (and perhaps feel) old, played,
and loved—not sanded and dragged around the kitchen.
Sincerely, John Bohlinger
 
Personally, I think of reliced instruments as the equivalent of a boob job. Wishful thinking, but not authentic. For those rich enough to afford the real thing, more power to ya. If you can't afford it, but really think having something that looks close enough to the real thing will bring you pleasure, get a relic. That said, any instrument that is capable of allowing you to be at your absolute best, IS the absolute best. That goes for vintage, relic, boutique, mutts, 5ers, 6ers, breaker 1-9ers, kindling, etc. Whether or not anyone else likes it doesn't matter.
 
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