I'm surprised that CTM15 and Valve Jr didn't show up till the second page. I had a VJr and miss it. It was silent hum-wise below 12:00. I'm curious to try the ctm, but knowing how loud even the VJr could get I'll probably just get another of those and spend a ton of dough finding the right cab and driver to mate it with to sound nice with bass. My 70's B15 sounds fantastic at jam volumes, but hums a bit much for "people are home" volumes to be fully enjoyable.