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Not just for in-ears, but for sends to the house in general. I usually use a "pre" setting and give the house an unaffected signal. Having a "cab sim" added to Warm and Qtube XLR out may accomplish Quilter's sonic goals, but isn't it the equivalent of a fixed "post" send to the house, including my EQ choices? Would this flummox my normally patient sound tech? Am I missing something? …or just needlessly concerned?
Great points. I was stopping at the IEM rig (Assuming that my regular Sound Engineer's could handle the FOH just fine) but you bring up yet another interesting thing which is that theoretically my SE's are going to have to work to "Undo" whatever the cab sim is doing. My understanding is that the 803 doesn't have any ability to send unaffected to XLR. Basically clean Post Pre is the "Modern" voice and then the "Warm" and Qtube" are post Pre AND adding some form of cab sim. In my case it's not a huge deal because I run the Sushi Box Finally Tube DI as the last pedal on my board so I can run off the XLR of that to my IEM Rig & FOH and then send the 1/4" out to my amp setup. However, if I wasn't already running a DI post effects and pre amp then I would have to add one.
Yes. From the manual: "Signal level is approximately -6dB, and will contain all the preamp's tone and breakup (if used)."
For me, it's just a logical design choice when you want to make a small and lightweight amp, you have to remove what you think isn't mandatory. You can't please everyone.
Agree. Also, I know it's not for everyone (per the above discussion), but I usually send my signal post anyway on my Mesa amps because it sounds so good. I get why a FOH engineer wouldn't like that, so I usually just don't tell them ;-)
Look how tiny it looks compared to the Ampeg head, that's hilarious
I agree also. It's just worth pointing out. The sound techs who really care hand me a box anyway. So it goes
. Actually I am curious what those "Sims" sound like in a big system.
It's on pages 6-7 of the manual, in the gray shaded areas.
I wouldn't want any undefeatable cab Sims at all; I spent a lot of time and money to obtain bass cabs whose sound I prefer with my basses, and wouldn't want to change their sound by default.
The cab sims on the 803 are only on the XLR out, and only on the warm and Qtube settings. So you wouldn't be getting any sim running to your cabs from the amp. And could get an EQ-only feed to FOH on the modern setting.
Me too. Get mine friday. I hope it has a first 100 certificate. I heard some have a coupon for a free gig bag.
I plan on it.Look how tiny it looks compared to the Ampeg head, that's hilarious
It would be nice to compare…
Well the cab sim is on the XLR out so it's not coloring your cabinets.
Also on the headphone out (and again, only for Warm and Qtube), but that's not going to be used on the gig, I imagine.
Exactly - and the idea is to simulate how your speaker sounds with warm or qtube engaged. If you don't want it, you use modern (or a DI box). Net/net feature add and no subtraction.
