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Quilter Bass Block

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I am used-cab-shopping and keep running into 4 ohm 2X10's. I wrote them off initially but in this thread there are a couple of 2-ohm positive reports.
This is the closest to cab empty I have ever been. Near full restart on what I want to have on hand. I still have a single 1X12 good enough for rehearsals. Ideally I'd like a second 1X12 to have a stackable gig setup; Or a medium sized cab large enough to handle small gigs alone , e.g. 2X10 / 1X15, with possibility to stack the 1X12 on top of that.
Not interested in Genzeler , Baer, supercab stuff. Had them and they are great but I'm trying to keep investment low and sound quality high. E.g., older high quality ceramic "heavy" cabs
Budget = $200-350
ideas?
 
#2,002
my friend plays an old 80s SWR 410. He paid $200 for it. It slams


floydman said:
I am used-cab-shopping and keep running into 4 ohm 2X10's. I wrote them off initially but in this thread there are a couple of 2-ohm positive reports.
This is the closest to cab empty I have ever been. Near full restart on what I want to have on hand. I still have a single 1X12 good enough for rehearsals. Ideally I'd like a second 1X12 to have a stackable gig setup; Or a medium sized cab large enough to handle small gigs alone , e.g. 2X10 / 1X15, with possibility to stack the 1X12 on top of that.
Not interested in Genzeler , Baer, supercab stuff. Had them and they are great but I'm trying to keep investment low and sound quality high. E.g., older high quality ceramic "heavy" cabs
Budget = $200-350
ideas?
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I played a gig a couple of years ago where the sound company provided an old Hartke 215, I think it was their X-series, or something like that? It was killer. I used my amp on top, at the time I think it was a Mesa D800. I still remember that amp, it just had that old, deep sound that almost nothing these days can get. I imagine the Quilter would be even mo' killer because the midrange on the Q is so good.
 
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Bob Lee (QSC) said:
I've used the fourth-generation prototype a few times (I have a connection). It's quite powerful. I was concerned at first ver the dearth of EQ knobs, but the contour controls are pretty versatile and within a couple minutes i was able to dial in a really nice tone.

Now I don't know whether to keep my cab (EX B-1150M, a big 15" 2-way) and get a Bass Block or keep my pre and dbx comp/lim and get a powered loudspeaker, like a K10 or K12.
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It must be fun to have the inside track on all this equipment.
 
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anton72 said:
Yes but is line out post EQ, and the output signal is effected by Master knob making it useless for sound guys.
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Useless only if they are lazy. It does work, though if a mixing board can only take a mic level signal you would need to either pad the signal or run an external DI. I'm guessing the lack of ground lift could be an issue as well in certain circumstances too.

I as well as others have used it live before though with no issues.
 
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I like my BB800 but the fact is I have to run a parametric in front of it to get the tone I want and I might possibly have to add a DI at some point too.
The pros: I get the tone I am looking for (once I added the peq), it's priced right, the tone knobs are simple and stage freindly, it's got balls (I could probably weld with amp). The cons: The speakon is upside down (really not a big deal) the DI is post tone and master, has no ground lift and it could probably use a bright switch on the front panel (but thats a bit nit picky too). These are great amps.
 
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anton72 said:
Yes but is line out post EQ, and the output signal is effected by Master knob making it useless for sound guys.
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You are correct.
Regardless of whether the XLR out is pre or post EQ (and many smart manufacturers make it switchable), having it post everything is short sighted and limiting at best. The whole point of a master volume is to have stage volume control without changing your preamp gain/saturation/tone. Whether it be your personal monitor or the house signal. This is why its the industry standard on almost all other bass heads that have built in DI's.

To their credit, Quilter themselves have realized this and have said themselves, in this very thread, that this very issue will be changed in the next generation of this head.

You shouldn't have to jump through all these extra hoops....
 
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PhatBasstard said:
You are correct.
Regardless of whether the XLR out is pre or post EQ (and many smart manufacturers make it switchable), having it post everything is short sighted and limiting at best. The whole point of a master volume is to have stage volume control without changing your preamp gain/saturation/tone. Whether it be your personal monitor or the house signal. This is why its the industry standard on almost all other bass heads that have built in DI's.

To their credit, Quilter themselves have realized this and have said themselves, in this very thread, that this very issue will be changed in the next generation of this head.

You shouldn't have to jump through all these extra hoops....
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I'm with you 100% that the next generation ought to have a "pre/post" switch for the DI.

That said, I understand completely why Quilter designed it the way they did: The BB800's Gain and Master controls interact to shape your tone. Hypothetically, if the XLR Out was after the Gain but before the Master, then you would not be able to get the full range of tones into front-of-house. By putting the XLR Out post-Master, they've assured that what you hear on stage will be what goes to the board (for better or worse).
 
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