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Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by Tjreclus, Apr 18, 2016.
You don’t have to turn it down much, I rather like the detente, set it and forget it
Strange question... Well, it's not a psychological compulsion or anything like that I just like the way it responds. At the higher settings it hass a very nice saturation-type compression.
I guess this may be an issue if you don’t play really dynamically with your hands but I have personally never had an issue with the detents using any of my basses with the BB800. And, they tend to vary quite a bit in output. I actually like the detents, but I don’t really think about them when I’m playing a gig
If this is such an issue(not casting judgment), maybe the amp isn’t the right amp for certain players. There are so many fantastic heads on the market now that there is sure to be something for everyone. The new Genzler heads have as much slam as anything I’ve played.
Ridiculousness... Can't a guy just gripe about a niggling detail on the best amp in the world?
Oh no, I didn't realize I was talking to my wife!
Wide open on gain? Then this may not be the amp for you. I’ve had mine (and a few other good amps) for a while and the break up on wide op3n gain is pretty harsh. Perhaps a DG or other “grindier” amp?
ACK!! reply fail, should have been to bdplaid.
[Quote: One should not need an external box to control his volume. Death to detents! : -)
Hi Peter, I was just curious if you had any update on the new BlockDock cabs? Looking forward to getting my hands on a 10TC!
I do this for all my amps and decided to share with you. A 2D print of the BB80 front panel for you to plasticize ( like you do on covers of your kids shool books for proctection) and then glue with duct tape to the bottom of the BB800.
Use a permanent pen ( the ones that are only removed by alcool) to "save" your BB800 settings on the spot.
Just received mine last night so haven't spent much time with it but my bass definitely sounds like my bass...Will get it turned up tonight....outdoor shows tomm and saturday and I'm just gonna run it...should run both mas cabs when I need to...and be quite the mini rig with just the 1,8
I'm eyeballing this bad boy since a while now, maybe it's time I ask you a couple of questions:
Can this amp be connected from line out straight into a mixer and then active monitors, without a cabinet connected? I don't use a cabinet at home, I just practice with my active monitors or headphones.
What's the difference between line out and DI?
I'm not an expert when it comes to DI in general, but I've heard some rants about the line out volume being dependent on the master volume. Which kind of problem you can have and how to solve it?
I can't understand if the amp have a built-in compressor of some sort and if you can work around that, maybe deactivate it?
I'm looking for a "netural" amp capable of being FLAT, is this a good amp for that?
EQ controls seems minimal, is there a control for midrange? Tell me more about controls.
Thanks for the infos, I'll check some more videos/reviews later.
I need to be 100% sure that the BB800 can be used straight into my mixer without a cabinet connected, that's crucial for me. The fact that the "line out" is not a DI make me think that I can't plug the amp into the DI (Cannon port) of my mixer.
What you mean with "dedicated PI"? A DI pedal?
I don't understand why you need an 800 watt Amp only to bypass the power section and only use the line out? It doesn't need a cab connected. Why not use an ART preamp or something similar?
I don't want to bypass the power section at all. When I practice home I don't use a cab, I need to go straight into my mixer and monitors. Is that possible with this amp?
When I go to rehersals I take the amp with me and plug it into a bass cabinet.
Manual says that you can unplug the speaker output when using headphones.
I can confirm 100% that you can use the Quilter BB800 into a mixer, without a cabinet attached.
Because it is a Line Out and not a DI, all of the knobs (including Master) affect the sound to the mixer. This is a good thing in your case, since presumably you want your home practice experience to be the same sound as rehearsals plugged into a cab.
1.The amp doesn't need a speaker load, so yes.
2.The original intent. A Line Out is for feeding another power amp, and a DI is for FOH use.
3.The worst that can happen is you'll send a super hot signal to the board. This won't happen when you're just practicing at home, but at a gig it happens. I carry a 15dB pad with me for whenever a soundguy complains, but most competent soundguys can work around it.
4.It doesn't have a built-in compressor. It has a built-in dual-stage limiter. It works and sounds and behaves like a tube amp. When tubes get hot, they start limiting the signal. Not a lot, but a bit. This amp does the same thing.
I'll put it this way: You'll never actually hear the limiter in the same way you can often hear outboard or pedalboard compressors.
The limiter is actually a large part of the magic of this amp. Whenever we've talked about the "weight" or "heft" or "slam" of this amp, it's due to the limiter.
When we talk about the magic of cranking the gain with a lower master volume to get that "feel", we're talking about the limiter.
Everyone who loves this amp, loves the limiter. Everyone.
5. This amp, with the 2 tone controls being set at Noon, is completely frequency flat. A straight horizontal line on a frequency graph. I've never found a more neutral amp.
6.Minimal EQ is also part of the magic of this amp.
Depth control has a hinge frequency of 100Hz. I think it's a shelving control, but I could be wrong.
Turn in up or down. Fairly basic.
Contour, however, is different. Counterclockwise, it's a midscoop, with the mid frequency in question being 300Hz. Clockwise, it's a shelving treble control hinged at 200Hz.
While that sounds like some questionable EQ design, it in fact is the most intuitive EQ system I've ever used.
Someone else in this thread made a comprehensive list/manual of everything the EQ can do with just those two knobs. It's kinda crazy.
Besides, if you want a "neutral" or frequency flat amp, why would you want/need it to have too many controls?
I think you'd LOVE this amp if you got to try one.
Many online retailers have good return policies. I got mine through Zzounds, and they have a 45 day return policy.
I hope my answers actually helped and didn't just confuse you more.