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Radial StageBug SB-1 vs Radial StageBug SB-2 ???

Signal Chain : Passive Bass => Tuner => FX => DI/LI => PA


Radial StageBug SB-1


or

Radial StageBug SB-2


???


May the Groove be with you.
 
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SB-1 is active, SB-2 is passive. I have the SB-2, sounds like a good passive DI to me and I can use it direct to powered PA speaker (no phantom power).
The SB-2 can be used with preamps, keyboards, etc. An active DI is more sensitive to what is plugged in (input clipping) and need phantom power.
The SB-2 can merge a stereo signal to mono.
 
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Been thinking of getting the SB2 for awhile now. Is it worth it to do so if I plan on getting a multi effects pedal with a DI?
 
I have an SB-2 at the end of the signal chain on my pedal board - i.e. after all of my effects. Haven't noticed any issues whether using my active basses, my one active/passive bass that I almost always play in passive mode, or my one passive bass.
 
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The SB-2 occupies the space between the average “throwaway” passive DI with fingernail-sized transformer, and something like the ProDI. The response graphs do not tell the whole story. Its bottom end is limited in range and sounds a bit dead/sludgy in terms of dynamics. Its top end is also limited, but for BG use it may not be noticeable. Of all my passive DIs, its output level is the lowest by far for any given input level. Re. transformer saturation, I have not tested its behavior at high input signal levels.

The SB-1 is a camouflaged, criminally-underappreciated monster of a DI. It’s clear as a bell, its response is wide, and its dynamics lively. It’s also a very high-gain DI, even with the pad engaged, so your sound tech will never complain about low signal levels. Of course phantom power is needed but you already knew that. My one beef with the SB-1 is that its ground lift button is inside the unit. You get to it by sticking the end of a paper clip or the tip of a mechanical pencil into the hole provided in the case. It’s almost impossible to tell which position the switch is in simply by looking at it, because the hole is too small.

Consider the context(s) in which you’ll be playing, whether the choice of DI will make any difference to the average listener. Things like well-treated small room with a Smart Person running the console and half the listeners are musicians, vs huge hellhole cavern where sound waves are bouncing all over the place, half the audience is drunk or being yelled at by spouses, and no one in there could tell the difference between a Whirlwind and an RNDI even with a legal BAC level. Outdoor shows would be another case where the SB-2’s minor weaknesses wouldn’t be at all noticeable.

Finally, make sure the feature set of each DI suits your needs.

I own an SB-1, SB-2, JDI, ProDI, passive Telefunken, passive Warm Audio, and RNDI. I would try other ones, too, but it’s already getting embarrassing.
 
The SB-2 occupies the space between the average “throwaway” passive DI with fingernail-sized transformer, and something like the ProDI. The response graphs do not tell the whole story. Its bottom end is limited in range and sounds a bit dead/sludgy in terms of dynamics. Its top end is also limited, but for BG use it may not be noticeable. Of all my passive DIs, its output level is the lowest by far for any given input level. Re. transformer saturation, I have not tested its behavior at high input signal levels.
The output level would be determined by the transformer primary secondary winding ratio.
I think those have something like a +20 db input max input spec.

If I had one I would test it compared to some other DI's.
 
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The SB-1 is pretty awesome. I use a few of them with my main band. Haven't tried it with bass (I use preamp pedals with built-in DIs or the DI built into my amp) but we use them for a ton of different instruments. Sounds good, typical bombproof Radial build quality. Have spilled beer on them dozens of times and keep going.

The old rule of thumb is passive bass = active DI. So I would go for SB-1 instead of SB-2.

I feel like every modern PA has Phantom Power available on all channels. Maybe not always the case on super old/low-end gear but I don't know what kind of gigs you are playing. the only other thing to consider would be a preamp pedal with built-in DI, but if you're happy with your sound then no need to go down that rabbit hole. Just buy an SB-1 and keep going.
 
I have an SB-2 at the end of the signal chain on my pedal board - i.e. after all of my effects. Haven't noticed any issues whether using my active basses, my one active/passive bass that I almost always play in passive mode, or my one passive bass.
Unless all of your pedals were true bypass, and none of them were turned on, there is a buffer somewhere in that signal chain. So you have 'activated' (yes, I'm going with that) your signal.
I play passive basses exclusively.

I'm looking for a good little DI / Isolated DI / LI...

What do you recommend me, please ?



May the Groove be with you.
I have an SB-2 that I bought to go in my rack when I had a rack rig. It doesn't get much use these days but it's a great little box. When I want a passive DI I tend to use my LBP Inc. one. Fantastic thing and you're supporting a small business. If I could only have one DI it would probably be a Countryman.

None of this helps you much. Just pick any of the Radials and you'll almost certainly be fine. Sometimes a passive DI can load down a passive bass. I can't find the input impedance for either box, but that will bother you then the active one is more likely to play nicely with passive basses.
 
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> I can't find the input impedance for either box, but that will bother you
> then the active one is more likely to play nicely with passive basses.

SB-2 spec is 140 KΩ
SB-1 spec ls 800 KΩ w/o pad, 23 KΩ w/ pad

If I were the OP, I'd envision any+all usage scenarios I was going to encounter, and if phantom power was going to be available in every one of them, then I'd just get the SB-1 and be done with it.
 
Interesting...

I've had the SB2 on my radar, but now the SB1 is in the mix... I use both passive & active (9V & 18V) basses.

Anyone know of an active D/I that can be powered from the pedalboard PSU, rather than a desk's 48V phantom?

TIA. 🙏

Mark
 
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Interesting...

I've had the SB2 on my radar, but now the SB1 is in the mix... I use both passive & active (9V & 18V) basses.

Anyone know of an active D/I that can be powered from the pedalboard PSU, rather than a desk's 48V phantom?

TIA. 🙏

Mark
There are a few out there.

I am aware of the following:

Broughton Audio Mini Fridge Cab Sim
Broughton Audio HPF-DI (discontinued)
Lighting Boy Audio DiVision (discontinued)
WR Audio Gnome (reversed polarity)

In case you plan to feed the active DI box from your pedalboard PSU, you might consider preamps with DI such as Tech 21 BDDI, VTDI or PDDI. They can serve as an active DI (when switched off) or they can serve as a preamp (when switched on).
 
I do use a Fender Downtown Express (relacing my Hartke VXL Bass Attack)... for my dry/clean tone... to one amp and one channel of our mixer.

But I run wet/dry (yes, i'm a dinosaur), and it's my effected signal path I'm looking for the active D/I solution.

Thanks 🙏🙏🙏
 
Interesting...

I've had the SB2 on my radar, but now the SB1 is in the mix... I use both passive & active (9V & 18V) basses.

Anyone know of an active D/I that can be powered from the pedalboard PSU, rather than a desk's 48V phantom?

TIA. 🙏

Mark
If any of your pedals have a buffer then a good passive di is all you'd need. To actually answer your question there are some super cheap 'Chord' ones on eBay or these guys in addition the good suggestions already mentioned.
 
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