Raising my Amp stack set-up higher off the ground

[mapleglo]

There is one issue with stacking 2 SVT-210AV cabs, They are tall and very slender and have a slim depth. I've been on stages where I would not want to stack them vertically in fear of them falling over.

 

[Wasnex]

Hi everyone,

I know there's a few threads on this particular topic, but I thought i'd start one specific to my needs.

I'm about to be in possession of two Ampeg 210AVs, to pair with an Ampeg V-4B. In some situations I would like to raise the whole thing (cabs side by side, vertical, with the V-4b on top of both) off the ground by 30-40cm (roughly, could go higher). I realise there's always a big debate that comes up in these things about coupling with the floor for bass response. I get that and sure, in some situations I will just place on the floor. However, in other situations I require the rig to be raised up closer to torso or ear level for practice/recording/certain gig situations.

Just curious what others use to raise their setups off the ground for a similar purpose (clarity and punch) and to get it nearer ear level? I was thinking something as simple as beer crates, I just don't want to get something that can't handle the weight, resulting in a pretty expensive accident.

I have a flightcase for the V-4B, that has a height of about 40cm or so. Maybe I could use that? as long as it can take the weight of the head and two cabs i suppose.

Interested to hear people's thoughts.

For touring we put our gear in flight cases, so we had plenty of options.

My touring amp was in a rolling rack. I think it was 16 spaces and it had heavy duty casters. So I typically stacked an Eden D210XLT vertically on top of the rolling rack. Then I wedged a spare Countryman Type-85 DI under the front edge of the cab to tilt it back so it aimed at my head.

This approach works wells for me because I am more concerned with a focused sound that has good pitch definition. It's not a good approach for those who prefer more of a thick, pillowy low end.

I am a big fan of vertically oriented arrays. If I were in your shoes I would stack the 210s vertically and use something else as a stand for the V4B. If you want the 210s higher, find something to place under them.

The best advice IMHO: Experiment and figure out what works best for you.

 

[Thumpin6string]

I just stack my cabs and they work fine.

 

[Flog]

Those 210AV's sound great, but are really bass shy. Definitely not pants shakers. Taking them off the floor wouldn't help in the low end department. I had a pair and moved on from them once I tried some other cabs, but always imagined having 3 of them...2 on the floor and one stacked. or 3 horizontal.

 

[Tim Skaggs]

because the V-4B goes on top of them

If you put it elsewhere it doesn’t go there. Vertical stacking eliminates one negative (no loss of floor coupling) and accomplishes one goal (getting speakers up closer to your ear), and also comes with a bonus positive (better dispersion from a vertical column of speakers over speakers placed side by side). There’s also a school of thought (of which I don’t know whether is fact or fiction) that putting a tube amp anywhere other than on top of a vibrating speaker is a little easier on the components in the amp, especially on those glass covered elements…

 

[Bulky Bass]

This small palette works wonders…

 

[jerry]

Milk crate!

 

[Old Ozzie Guy]

because the V-4B goes on top of them

U could put v4v next to vertical stack, on table, or amp stand, or on floor on its side long and thin...

 

[Discount Bassy]

It is easier just to play laying down.

 

[leftyc]

Movers Dolly or 2 Dollies if using 2 cabs for gigs. At home I use an expandable file cabinet dolly to keep it off the floor.

 

[Jett Litt]

If you decide not to stack them vertically. I wouldn't place them side by side. Instead install rubber feet on the sides, and stack them horizontally. Then it becomes much easier and stable to place them on some sort of riser.

I used to have four of the 210AV cabs and would stack them vertically with the two stacks angled in towards each other slightly to get a crossfiring effect.

But on unstable stages I would stack them horizontally after I installed rubber feet on the sides. It was a very effective mobile 8x10.

Now I just use two stacked vertically with a small head on top. But like was mentioned, when using the V4B you could simply place the head on a stand if stage space isn't a premium.

 

[No Malarky]

When possible live I prefer a 2-15 laying sideways on the floor with a 4-10 on that and the rack topping things off.

 

[Kipp Harrington]

Foldable step stool. Holds up to 300 pounds. Walmart. Around $10-$12.

 

[seansbrew]

I almost always raise my amp up off the floor. Or am at least prepared for it. Doing this helps with boomy rooms. Also, getting the amp a little closer to your ears can help minimize your stage volume.

 

[Relsom]

Those kick out feet on my Shuttle cabs get the top one aimed where I need it while maintaining stage coupling on the lower. Maybe you can add something like that to one of your cabs, though you'll want to find a way to keep the head from vibrating off the back.

 

[coyoteboy]

 

[jdjk7]

I almost always raise my amp up off the floor. Or am at least prepared for it. Doing this helps with boomy rooms. Also, getting the amp a little closer to your ears can help minimize your stage volume.

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What brand/model of stand is this?

 

[seansbrew]

It is an adjustable keyboard stand. I cut the middle with a hack saw to bring it closer together so that the rails wold be between the feet of the cab.

 

[Bassdirty]

I just stack my cabs and they work fine.
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Is that A 15" under the 210? Using my finger to measure, it "seems" to be, but at the same time it looks like my 112 Epifani cabs...


edit- the more I look, the more I think its a 12...?
(Hows the pair sound together?)

T$

 

[Thumpin6string]

Is that A 15" under the 210? Using my finger to measure, it "seems" to be, but at the same time it looks like my 112 Epifani cabs...


edit- the more I look, the more I think its a 12...?
(Hows the pair sound together?)

T$

It's a210 on a 112.