Request Ramones - Teenage Labotomy

[lfmn16]

Well, you do now.

Yes, in your mind.

The thing that playing by ear works better at is intervals that aren't half or whole steps

Yes, I think those things I mentioned call CHORDS qualify.

Music theory is a backwards thing from what most people think. It's derived from practice,not the other way around. The practice existed long before people ever developed a theory to explain things. Octaves, thirds, fourths, and fifths sound good - why? It's because the frequencies of the two notes in those intervals have frequency relationships that are small number integer ratios of each other. That coupled with our ears being attuned to those relationships, certain intervals sound better to us than others. Chords are simply groups of notes that sound good when played together - people learned what notes sounded good together long before anyone developed a theory to explain why.



Thousands of years ago, although people could intuit some of those relationships, due to string lengths, pipe lengths, and such, nobody had a frequency counter to really know what frequencies were being played, but primitive people knew certain things sounded good. They, to use your words, knew what they were playing, even if terms hadn't been invented for it yet. The point is, music theory exists as a way to explain what works in practice, not the other way around. Theory can be invoked to explain why something sounds good, but "sounds good" came a long time before theory; a lot of folks seem to forget that, and think that theory is somehow vital to being a good musician, and should always be taught first. Humanity didn't learn to make music in that order - good musicians existed eons before people knew music theory.

I've had 4 years of Music theory, don't need a lecture. Also, I never mentioned music theory, so it's not relevant to this discussion.

Done now. If you can't see how knowing scales and chords can help you learn a song, that's your shortcoming.

 

[Whousedtoplay]

1/16 notes.....

then you count out each of those 16 notes.

the bass is playing 16th notes

Are those 16ths notes at that 185BPM tempo???

 

[Whousedtoplay]

This song is in 4/4, which means 4 beats to each measure,

The song ALSO has 6/4 (or 4/4+2/4), therefore, it could create some rhythmic problems without either MEMORIZING those measures/spots or learning to read (even simplified) chord progression notation.

 

[StereoPlayer]

The song ALSO has 6/4 (or 4/4+2/4), therefore, it could create some rhythmic problems without either MEMORIZING those measures/spots or learning to read (even simplified) chord progression notation.

Ya, those Ramones song are tricky.

 

[Whousedtoplay]

Ya, those Ramones song are tricky.

To tell you the truth, I'm very impressed about the band's rhythmic tightness and/or Dee Dee's excellent timing/articulation at 185BPM. It was recorded in 1977.

 

[Spidey2112]

Are those 16ths notes at that 185BPM tempo???

That sounds fast...

 

[Spidey2112]

We're working on 'YYZ'... my long time nemesis. Since we don't have a chance in Helluva, Wisconsin of performing a RUSH song with vocals, we've decided on this particular piece... thanks a lot, guys!

Even slowing it down by 10% (using Audacity), it feels like I'm playing 64th notes, throughout most of the song. YouTube, at 75% slow, is way doable, but I don't think my band is into a Stoner/Doom version of this piece... I know a few who might be, though... .

I know the parts, even the fills now... playing at studio speed is another animal, altogether.

If I slip the drummer a $20, do you think he'll slow it down? How 'bout some Nyquil?

 

[Whousedtoplay]

We're working on 'YYZ'... my long time nemesis. Since we don't have a chance in Helluva, Wisconsin of performing a RUSH song with vocals, we've decided on this particular piece... thanks a lot, guys!

Even slowing it down by 10% (using Audacity), it feels like I'm playing 64th notes, throughout most of the song. YouTube, at 75% slow, is way doable, but I don't think my band is into a Stoner/Doom version of this piece... I know a few who might be, though... .

I know the parts, even the fills now... playing at studio speed is another animal, altogether.

If I slip the drummer a $20, do you think he'll slow it down? How 'bout some Nyquil?

It’s really captivating to see such an emotionally-long thread dedicated to just one song’s TAB without even producing any TAB.

 

[Spidey2112]

It’s really captivating to see such an emotionally-long thread dedicated to just one song’s TAB without even producing any TAB.

 

[RyanOh]

Those are 8th notes though?

Several offers of TAB and ways to get the music were surfaced before it went sideways, TalkBass Labotomy (sic)

 

[Whousedtoplay]

Those are 8th notes though?

Yes, those are the 8ths mostly with some quarter notes.

 

[Bc2112]

So quick update I have learned the song and have learned a lot from this. I also learned that all downstrokes isn't as difficult as it seems. (Keep in mind that this is one song not a concert.)
Anyways I want to thank all 0f you for your time and help.
Rock on

 

[StereoPlayer]

Glad it worked for ya.

 

[Bc2112]

Glad it worked for ya.

Thanks man. Ride on

 

[Spidey2112]

have learned a lot from this.

Yes.

I want to thank all of you...

Even better...

Rock on!

You're well on your way... keep up the good work!

 

[Bc2112]

Yes.



Even better...



You're well on your way... keep up the good work!

Thanks. Have a nice day or night.