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[Rant] Angry Craiglister Call
- Thread starter Bordois
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Was it that "Mailbox Dog" dude from NY state?
His ads are usually that aggressive right up front.
His ads are usually that aggressive right up front.
BiPolar!!!
Sorry once had a BL have me tryout years ago for a band project, said he wanted a 5 string player! OK I had a 5er lying around. Went to audition sadly it was in hidden where the GPS didn't recognize address. Got there 2 minutes late after a 45 minute ride. Walk in the door and he immediately starts raising his voice that I'm LATE and it's very unprofessional. Mind you the band wasn't even setup yet! Then he asks if I smoke weed? I tell him I don't, then he asks if I mind if he does?! Crazy! Finally get to doing the audition and after 1 song starts in on the 20 questions, etc.
Tells me I'm in so I'm thinking this is cool. Finish up the set list and I'm feeling good, maybe a contact high I got cause the room was smoke filled.
Now for the next 5 days this guy is blowing up my phone at least 10x's a day. Repeating how he wants professionalism, what a great guy I am, and how he can't wait to start the project. Now after a month goes I'm hearing crickets. So I call him only to get a rant about the costs, time, personalities, etc. I immediately hang up. Now the next 3 days he's calling me literally 20x's a day leaving VM's lol!
Finally he gets word to some people I know to state that he wants closure and to please call him. So i did and within the first I'm realizing that I'm not getting a word in edgewise. I put the phone down for about 15 minutes and he's still yapping. OMG, I finally pick up and state in a loud voice, "Good Luck on your venture wishing you the Best!" Click!
Come to find out later that the BL Binged like a wild man on some beam me up Scotty and seizured where he became paralyzed on his whole left side of body.
Yeah CL!
Sorry once had a BL have me tryout years ago for a band project, said he wanted a 5 string player! OK I had a 5er lying around. Went to audition sadly it was in hidden where the GPS didn't recognize address. Got there 2 minutes late after a 45 minute ride. Walk in the door and he immediately starts raising his voice that I'm LATE and it's very unprofessional. Mind you the band wasn't even setup yet! Then he asks if I smoke weed? I tell him I don't, then he asks if I mind if he does?! Crazy! Finally get to doing the audition and after 1 song starts in on the 20 questions, etc.
Tells me I'm in so I'm thinking this is cool. Finish up the set list and I'm feeling good, maybe a contact high I got cause the room was smoke filled.
Now for the next 5 days this guy is blowing up my phone at least 10x's a day. Repeating how he wants professionalism, what a great guy I am, and how he can't wait to start the project. Now after a month goes I'm hearing crickets. So I call him only to get a rant about the costs, time, personalities, etc. I immediately hang up. Now the next 3 days he's calling me literally 20x's a day leaving VM's lol!
Finally he gets word to some people I know to state that he wants closure and to please call him. So i did and within the first I'm realizing that I'm not getting a word in edgewise. I put the phone down for about 15 minutes and he's still yapping. OMG, I finally pick up and state in a loud voice, "Good Luck on your venture wishing you the Best!" Click!
Come to find out later that the BL Binged like a wild man on some beam me up Scotty and seizured where he became paralyzed on his whole left side of body.
Yeah CL!
After the first “I DON’T CARE!”, I would have hung up and blocked his number.
Life's too short to waste it on people that give you red flags so soon... MOst people I've encountered tend to be in their best behaviour when you first meet them, so if the first impression is bad I don't have much interest in finding out whether he was just having a bad day.
Sometimes they don't take the 'sorry but this is not what I'm looking for' like a personal offence and they send you one or seventeen follow up emails/texts (at that stage I don't bother having chats on the phone)... they can be amusing and it's a good way to remind you that your instinct knows you well and you should follow it.
Last I got like that was a 'guitarist' with an inflated sense of self-worth. I was in a busy ska/reggae band playing a mix of originals and classic covers, travelling a fair amount, playing nice festivals, venues... and we decided to form a side project to play bars with, playing funk and soul. Bar gigs around here were easy to get with the contacts we had and it seemed like a good way to fill up the calendar here and there and play something different. It was essentially sax, trumpet, drummer and myself on bass from the other band, and we were looking for a guitar player and an additional female vocalist. This guitarist was pretty bad. He only had one sound which was overdrive set to stun, regardless what we were playing. No dynamics, no feel, and he seemed to only be able to play ok-ish anything bluesy.
He didn't like being told that he wasn't what we were looking for and kept sending us messages individually about how we're amateurs, that he's got 3 decades experience and we're clearly intimidated by his superior (he actually used that word) ability and experience. Oh, how we laughed on the tour minibus the following week.
Watch out, they're out there.
Sometimes they don't take the 'sorry but this is not what I'm looking for' like a personal offence and they send you one or seventeen follow up emails/texts (at that stage I don't bother having chats on the phone)... they can be amusing and it's a good way to remind you that your instinct knows you well and you should follow it.
Last I got like that was a 'guitarist' with an inflated sense of self-worth. I was in a busy ska/reggae band playing a mix of originals and classic covers, travelling a fair amount, playing nice festivals, venues... and we decided to form a side project to play bars with, playing funk and soul. Bar gigs around here were easy to get with the contacts we had and it seemed like a good way to fill up the calendar here and there and play something different. It was essentially sax, trumpet, drummer and myself on bass from the other band, and we were looking for a guitar player and an additional female vocalist. This guitarist was pretty bad. He only had one sound which was overdrive set to stun, regardless what we were playing. No dynamics, no feel, and he seemed to only be able to play ok-ish anything bluesy.
He didn't like being told that he wasn't what we were looking for and kept sending us messages individually about how we're amateurs, that he's got 3 decades experience and we're clearly intimidated by his superior (he actually used that word) ability and experience. Oh, how we laughed on the tour minibus the following week.
Watch out, they're out there.
@Bordois
This was one I experienced about 10 years ago. Approached D bag status.
It ended rather humorously.
Guitar player placed add for a blues rock bassist. Have gigs. Call me. Pretty much that’s it. I figure it’s a typical bar band situation . So I take the bait and call.
Him: Hello
Me: Hi. I’m so n so answering your ad. I immediately tell him a brief history of my self and my abilities.First name only.
Him: Do you know how to play any SRV, ZZ Top, Allmans, etc ?
Me: Yes. I know a lot of their songs. What I don’t know, I can learn pretty quick. Just give a me a list and the keys.
Him: (disgruntled sound) So you’re not really familiar with them completely?
Me: No, I didn’t say that. But, I know a lot of the main songs and know their styles already.
Him: (with smug tone) Well, we’re pretty well known,we’re really tight, have lots of gigs “coming up” and can’t afford to spend a lot of time bringing you up to speed. Also, you’re not one of these guys who likes to solo? Our crowd doesn’t like it.
At this point. I get around to asking his name and the groups and google him.
Yep, he’s well known alright. The band had a semi running gig at a local toilet here in town at one time. Nothing on their schedule right now. They were so so in the tight department. Then I remembered him personally as a half assed jerk running a weekly jam at said same toilet.
At this point of the conversation, I realize the train wreck is not imminent, it’s occurring right now...,,
Me: (I politely say,) you know...I’m not sure if I’m a good fit for your group.
Him: Why not? (With defensive tone)
Me: (deadpan voice) Because I like to solo.....A lot!!!
Him:Oh...
End of call.
This was one I experienced about 10 years ago. Approached D bag status.
It ended rather humorously.
Guitar player placed add for a blues rock bassist. Have gigs. Call me. Pretty much that’s it. I figure it’s a typical bar band situation . So I take the bait and call.
Him: Hello
Me: Hi. I’m so n so answering your ad. I immediately tell him a brief history of my self and my abilities.First name only.
Him: Do you know how to play any SRV, ZZ Top, Allmans, etc ?
Me: Yes. I know a lot of their songs. What I don’t know, I can learn pretty quick. Just give a me a list and the keys.
Him: (disgruntled sound) So you’re not really familiar with them completely?
Me: No, I didn’t say that. But, I know a lot of the main songs and know their styles already.
Him: (with smug tone) Well, we’re pretty well known,we’re really tight, have lots of gigs “coming up” and can’t afford to spend a lot of time bringing you up to speed. Also, you’re not one of these guys who likes to solo? Our crowd doesn’t like it.
At this point. I get around to asking his name and the groups and google him.
Yep, he’s well known alright. The band had a semi running gig at a local toilet here in town at one time. Nothing on their schedule right now. They were so so in the tight department. Then I remembered him personally as a half assed jerk running a weekly jam at said same toilet.
At this point of the conversation, I realize the train wreck is not imminent, it’s occurring right now...,,
Me: (I politely say,) you know...I’m not sure if I’m a good fit for your group.
Him: Why not? (With defensive tone)
Me: (deadpan voice) Because I like to solo.....A lot!!!
Him:Oh...
End of call.
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Mepolitely say,) you know...I’m not sure if I’m a good fit for your group.
Him: Why not? (With defensive tone)
Me: (deadpan voice) Because I like to solo.....A lot!!!
Him:Oh...
End of call.
See, sometimes a bass solo is useful for something!
The " good story" angle is sometimes the only comfort available after investing time in that first rehersal together.
Um, I'm going to have to ask you to stop using 'freak beacon'- it's the name of my band.
Immediately release an album called "Craig's list Ballads"
With a companion novella- "It was a dark and stormy night...".
That's unpossible! Guitarist with inflated self-worth? Never happen.
Who do you think you are? Some kind of rock star? How dare you ask me to care about human beings and interact on an adult level? Amateur! 
Glen Fricker plays sax? Who knew?
This crap would have happened 30 years ago just as much as now, from newspaper ads and 5x8 cards on music/record store bulletin boards as much as on CL; they’ve always been out there. I’m surprised you got an actual phone call. In this era of ‘social’ media desocializing so many, where there is fear of actual contact with a live, real time human being, it’s been a chore for me to speak directly with someone(to catch a vibe)and orchestrate any actual preliminary jam-style get togethers...as if any recordings that I(or anyone one else)could send couldn’t be faked. Even before covid, the ritual of everybody being in the same room to check out each other was fading. The ‘timewaster’ aspect goes both ways, it’s just a calculated risk. At least with that call you got enough red flags; I’ve gone to a few situations in good faith after what I thought was a reasonable conversation, and it still was a let down.
You can’t pull this stuff off now, but that mook sounds like a prime candidate for the Red/Tube Bar tapes treatment. If you don’t know about that, look it up on Youtube
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This crap would have happened 30 years ago just as much as now, from newspaper ads and 5x8 cards on music/record store bulletin boards as much as on CL; they’ve always been out there. I’m surprised you got an actual phone call. In this era of ‘social’ media desocializing so many, where there is fear of actual contact with a live, real time human being, it’s been a chore for me to speak directly with someone(to catch a vibe)and orchestrate any actual preliminary jam-style get togethers...as if any recordings that I(or anyone one else)could send couldn’t be faked. Even before covid, the ritual of everybody being in the same room to check out each other was fading. The ‘timewaster’ aspect goes both ways, it’s just a calculated risk. At least with that call you got enough red flags; I’ve gone to a few situations in good faith after what I thought was a reasonable conversation, and it still was a let down.
You can’t pull this stuff off now, but that mook sounds like a prime candidate for the Red/Tube Bar tapes treatment. If you don’t know about that, look it up on Youtube
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1) Welcome to TalkBass!!!!
2) You can't keep this guy all to yourself. Post the ad here! I think this guy needs to talk to about 150 potential new bass players! Please and thank you.
I see a couple people seem to have an idea of a possible person who this might be. Whether or not it's the same person - post up some links so the rest of us who aren't local can enjoy.
I can see it now- audition with a band or guy who was described as 'The Next Big Thing' and as soon as everyone is ready, someone asks "What do you want to play?", then someone else says "I don't know, what do you want to play?".
Maybe these two need to get together. Or maybe they already have.
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He seems a competent player from his youtube videos which I won't link. Not excusing the behavior or saying you didn't dodge a bullet - you did. But I was really hoping for more entertainment to be had there.
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He seems a competent player from his youtube videos which I won't link. Not excusing the behavior or saying you didn't dodge a bullet - you did. But I was really hoping for more entertainment to be had there.
I be been using CL for years to form bands, find bands and players as well as sell gear. In most cases my experiences go very well. I have long time friends found from bands on CL. The best band I was ever a part of all was formed off CL. That’s not to say there wasn’t wack jobs.
Answered an ad years ago from a wack job who was looking for a blues/rock bass player. He told me to call him at a set time and when I did he didn’t answer. I tried again a while latter again, no answer, so I left a friendly message.
He finally calls back agitated saying he was busy having sex with his girlfriend and nobody bothers him when he is. He then started telling me who he was, what he expected, and that the band plays songs his way only.
I told him this wouldn’t work out. He said fine thanks for nothing and hung up. He then texted me for an hour calling me an amateur and a coward.
Had a guitar player answer an ad who said he was coming for an audition. The full band was waiting. The drummer called him when he was late and the guy said he was lost looking for the street. While on the phone said he found it and was coming down his street. Drummer walked out to meet him. He never showed and never answered his phone again.
Answered an ad years ago from a wack job who was looking for a blues/rock bass player. He told me to call him at a set time and when I did he didn’t answer. I tried again a while latter again, no answer, so I left a friendly message.
He finally calls back agitated saying he was busy having sex with his girlfriend and nobody bothers him when he is. He then started telling me who he was, what he expected, and that the band plays songs his way only.
I told him this wouldn’t work out. He said fine thanks for nothing and hung up. He then texted me for an hour calling me an amateur and a coward.
Had a guitar player answer an ad who said he was coming for an audition. The full band was waiting. The drummer called him when he was late and the guy said he was lost looking for the street. While on the phone said he found it and was coming down his street. Drummer walked out to meet him. He never showed and never answered his phone again.
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