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Rat, Bass Muff, Swollen Pickle

Discussion in 'Effects [BG]' started by stephen3547, Feb 19, 2014.

  1. Which one of these would be best for crunch and singing lead lines in the higher register? I've been thinking the Rat but Im having trouble settling on one.

    I've heard that the Rat doesn't have much low end, but I've tried the muff and the pickle and I almost found them to be too bass-heavy. Could someone who has tried these pedals give me some inisihht?
  2. mmbongo

    mmbongo Chicken Pot Pie. My three favorite things!! Supporting Member

    Fuzzrocious Rat Tail if you want a Rat.
  3. andrew


    May 20, 2000
    Vancouver BC/Pacific Northwest
    Endorsing Artist: Aguilar Amplification, Spector, Regenerate Guitar Works, Tech 21 NYC
    If your budget allows, get a Source Audio OFD and have both a RAT and a Muff on tap.

  4. That's a modeler right? How realistic is it?
  5. andrew


    May 20, 2000
    Vancouver BC/Pacific Northwest
    Endorsing Artist: Aguilar Amplification, Spector, Regenerate Guitar Works, Tech 21 NYC
    Check the thread on it. Many modeler skeptics (myself included) have been converted by this pedal.

    I've a/b compared it to the actual analog pedals and it either nails them or gets within spitting distance and couples each with a great noise gate, eq and clean blend.

    And in many cases the OFD sounds preferable to many guys to the real thing.
  6. Yeah, from the clips I've heard, I'm considering becoming a digital man (that and the Zoom MS-60B). Psst...Andrew...can I try your OFD on the weekend?
  7. andrew


    May 20, 2000
    Vancouver BC/Pacific Northwest
    Endorsing Artist: Aguilar Amplification, Spector, Regenerate Guitar Works, Tech 21 NYC
    Sure. :)
  8. spaz21387


    Feb 25, 2008
    Portland oregon
    Id go rat. I hated the bass muff and the swollen pickle. The bass muff was just really thin sounding compared to the russian muffs. Maybe if you havent heard a russian muff you would like the bass big muff. The swollen pickle was had too much low end and just sounded muddy no matter what setting I had it on. I also messed with the pots inside too. If you want a muff I suggest the blackout musket the mids knob is amazing.
  9. johnk_10

    johnk_10 vintage bass nut Supporting Member Commercial User

    Feb 16, 2008
    Thousand Oaks, CA
    John K Custom Basses
    as far digi pedals go, IMO, the MS60-B is good, but the SA pedals are in a completely different league.
  10. Sugar McGuinn

    Sugar McGuinn

    Feb 10, 2010
    After my Rat was modified by Keeley , It was hands down the best bass distortion I've ever used. ...and lacked no bass.
  11. southshoreconor


    Oct 30, 2007
    The Road
    Endorsing Artist: Fender Musical Instruments, SIT strings
    I use a rat (actually a clone) for really dirty sounds. I have a little natural distortion coming from the amp (Mesa 400) that responds well to my dynamics, but kick on the rat for full-on washy distortion which is nice for chords and for big sounding intros and outros.

    the swollen pickle is more of a fuzz which is not useful to me.

    the bass muff is kind of in the middle, you might like it because with both the tone and sustain around noon, you do still have solid low end and it sounds good in the higher register.
  12. MilesOnline


    Jan 27, 2014
    Personally I like my pickle, I run a boss bass overdrive before it though for heavier lows and use the pickle purely for fuzz and substain.
  13. Diaz


    Oct 18, 2013
    How bass friendly is that Fuzzrucious Rat Tail?
  14. Lebowsky

    Lebowsky Effects Forum Resident Supporting Member

    Mar 18, 2007
    Lausanne, Switzerland
    Very. It's made by a bassists for bassists, so...

    OP: Fuzzrocious Rat Tail is what you want.
  15. bassmusic17


    Jan 15, 2011
    Super bass friendly!
  16. Diaz


    Oct 18, 2013
    Awww man, i'm a fan of how the Rat2 sounds on guitar and have heard you guys talk about the Rat Tail before but always thought it was meant for guitar. I think i'm in love now.
  17. rratajski

    rratajski Commercial User

    Jul 1, 2008
    Mount Laurel, NJ

    You're in luck!
    From our FAQ page:
    Will the pedal work for bass or guitar?
    All of our pedals are tuned to be used equally with bass, guitar, vocals, keys, etc. They work w/ active instruments, too...you may need to turn your volume down, just as you would do with 99% of all other effects w/ actives.
  18. ocoaibass


    Jan 9, 2010
    Dude. Rat Tail, Rat King, Grey Stache (big muff), or any combination of the two are available from Fuzzrocious. Just do it. Has anyone ever had regrets from buying any of Ryan's stuff? I've yet to hear of a single instance, but if so, dude is so cool I'm sure he'd make you happy.
  19. Rneckties31

    Rneckties31 Supporting Member

    Jul 18, 2011
    Dallas, Texas
    Another vote for the SA OFD. Truly amazing pedal. especially if you don't know which you want yet because IMO those two models are some of the best on the ofd.