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Ready to be ridiculed...

Yeah I mean, I know folks who are out touring the world with a Mexican fender, or one of the most established names in jazz here in philly and nyc plays a squire 5. But that doesn’t mean there’s no difference between a fodera and a squire, cause there’s quite a few.
No doubt re the Fodera, but my argument has always been, is it audible to the audience, and do any of them give a stuff so long as you're grooving?
 
Do you all buy a second 500€ car not the scratch the 30000€?
I have a cheap old car that I really like, full of small dents and scratches, and I'd keep it even if I came into a lot of cash and could afford a flash car because I'd rather keep that pristine. I had a stacked to the gunwales steel shopping trolley roll away from someone else and crash into my car and make a small dent, and I laughed.
 
Ok,
So through out 2021, nearly 10 bass guitars have come in and out of my possession. at this point all of my childhood "dream" basses have been through my hands and I don't own any of them anymore. a few hit the spot but they also left my possession for one reason or another. Im talking Rickenbackers, American Ernie Balls, Euro, and USA Spectors (probably my favorites of all), as well as Status Graphite.

I don't want to be that guy with 20 basses, i would really like to be that guy that bought a certain bass when he was a young man, and that's still what he's playing in his 60s if God allows me to live that long. but for some reason I haven't loved any one bass to where I feel so attached to it that I cant let it go.

Now, a bass that is seemingly the amalgamation of all the good parts of the best basses I have owned has come into the picture, and as a 23 year old with no business doing this, I just bought it through a payment plan. And its expensive, like, VERY expensive. south of $9k but north of $5k. I cant believe I've done it, but I'm just tired of this endless buying and selling cause no bass quite hits the spot. this one IN THEORY, should offer the best of all my favorite basses in the past. As much as I hate to admit it I've really been spoiled rotten by some of the higher end basses I've owned.

Here's the kicker, I SUCK. I am not a good bassist by any stretch. I barely know any theory, I am *alright* in terms of technique but don't have the musical knowledge to put it to any good use. I've been "playing" bass since I was 12, but didn't really take any seriousness and passion to it until recently. I love music and adore bass, I love to listen to the best musicians out there from prog rock to jazz, and marvel at their mastery in technique and tasteful musicality. I just like nice things (though this is a few jumps over "nice"), and to me, few material things are more awesome than a finely crafted instrument, made with amazing dedication and attention to detail. You feel it when you hold them, and it makes you want to play.

Of course this isn't to say that I wont make an effort to become better at the bass. in fact I want this bass to be my trusty tool in the process of learning more than I ever have. It just feels funny, that for a long while, this bass made to the highest caliber of quality will be played by someone who hasn't even scratched the surface yet.

I am selling my other basses save for one beat up Ken Smith copy that I will use when I'm not comfortable taking a multi thousand dollar instrument somewhere.
Of course theres always the chance I get the bass in hand and decide I don't like it, which is why I bought it new from a reputable shop with a return policy. I wouldn't feel very good doing it, but its the only smart thing to do if you buy such an expensive bass and don't like it.

Not sure I want to say what bass it is I bought because maybe someone here was eyeing it and will be angry it went my way haha.

Look at it as just a tool. Regardless of your skill level, you want as good a tool as you can afford, whatever you are working on. Yes, other tools will do the job, but the good tools can make things easier, and sometimes put a smile on your face while using them. Just stop buying and selling. That's a lot of damn work!
 
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I have a cheap old car that I really like, full of small dents and scratches, and I'd keep it even if I came into a lot of cash and could afford a flash car because I'd rather keep that pristine. I had a stacked to the gunwales steel shopping trolley roll away from someone else and crash into my car and make a small dent, and I laughed.

It was new at some point, no? You didn't wait for it to be an old, dented car, to drive it.


I just think that things are meant to be used. If they get a scratch, a ding, it's life.

I have scars, too.
 
Never understood the "too expensive to gig" mentality.

Do you all buy a second 500€ car not the scratch the 30000€?
Yeah I agree with this as well, my upright bass cost about as much as the bass in the OP, I’ve played it in large concert halls in Brooklyn and then gone across the River to Manhattan the same bass in the basement of a Chinese wholesale fish market…
 
I'm so glad you cancelled the order.

Also surprised no one has asked what rig you play through!? Because you're going through amazing basses like my girlfriend goes through toilet paper.

I've gone through quite a few basses over the years, usually I break even. I don't regret many purchases or sales. I'm still looking for that perfect bass.

But 20 years ago I spent everything I had on my warwick thumb 5nt. This was a time when I could go to GC every day and play every bass they had, and decide which one spoke to me and brought out the best in my playing. So I bought it. And then I got laid off. I've always thought about what a bad move it was, even though it made so much sense when I did it. And yet, I still have that stupid thing. And it sounds and feels amazing still. But there's this energy attached to it. Ya know?

What I really needed, and still do, is some lessons from a good teacher. Or at least a more structured practice habit that includes technique and theory.
 
I'm so glad you cancelled the order.

Also surprised no one has asked what rig you play through!? Because you're going through amazing basses like my girlfriend goes through toilet paper.

I've gone through quite a few basses over the years, usually I break even. I don't regret many purchases or sales. I'm still looking for that perfect bass.

But 20 years ago I spent everything I had on my warwick thumb 5nt. This was a time when I could go to GC every day and play every bass they had, and decide which one spoke to me and brought out the best in my playing. So I bought it. And then I got laid off. I've always thought about what a bad move it was, even though it made so much sense when I did it. And yet, I still have that stupid thing. And it sounds and feels amazing still. But there's this energy attached to it. Ya know?

What I really needed, and still do, is some lessons from a good teacher. Or at least a more structured practice habit that includes technique and theory.

got a Genzler Magellan 800 going through a Genzler Nu-classic 212. And yea, thanks. Imma try to stick with my Stingray 5 HH for a while, someone had actually bought it the day I ordered the MTD, but when I cancelled the order I decided to refund the guy and keep it cause it’s a real nice stingray and it’d be a shame to get rid of it when I’m not replacing it with something [subjectively] nicer. It’s a great bass, other than the fact that in 25 years plus of making 5s music man hasn’t fixed the G string being so close to the edge of the board :rollno::laugh:

Actually I recently got the Genzler
I had a Genz Benz Shuttle 6.2 rig before and was very happy with it. Just wanted change to a single 212 cab and head set up so I decided that Genzler would be a good upgrade due to how well my GB rig performed and held up.
 
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My son said it best, "is someone going to walk up on stage and look for the fine print?"
True and there's that part of it where we want to absorb some of the magic that we assume that our heroes get from playing a certain instrument. I'm a long time Entwistle fan, but even when I had Alembics, I didn't sound like him, nor do I sound like Pino with a P, or Tony Levin with a Stingray. But I have played in a lot of party bands and the like and I know I can get people moving with the Ibanezes that I prefer in my hands.
 
True and there's that part of it where we want to absorb some of the magic that we assume that our heroes get from playing a certain instrument. I'm a long time Entwistle fan, but even when I had Alembics, I didn't sound like him, nor do I sound like Pino with a P, or Tony Levin with a Stingray. But I have played in a lot of party bands and the like and I know I can get people moving with the Ibanez's that I prefer in my hands.
Yeah, we were in Cozumel and heard this band that was a American cover band. Bass player was playing a beat up Old SR500?? One of the best Ibanez's I have ever heard. Funny I have never owned one.
Here comes my bomb for the day:
Bass names are funny. Some you have never heard of & it will be $5000+!
Ken Smith ? Who is Ken Smith? ((JK))) I could change the name on my cheapo to "Ken Jones" and come up with some weird story like it is hand made by "Leo's " nephew. No one would ever know...
 
It seems I have to come to my defense after tearing myself down.

I say I "suck" because I know where I could be and I'm not there. In reality, I'm pretty decent. I'm in a band, and I know our music better than they do and they wrote it. We did a Paramore cover set and I had 11 song set on lock in 4 days, and did darn good at the show. I can read chord changes and get through a walking swing line, albeit i wont be very fancy with my chordal outlining. My band mates and Worship team members always say I'm a great bassist, I just give myself a hard time accepting that remark.

I started bass at around 12 years old at church with no one to teach me. My best friend who is my age was our pianist at the time, and taught me the first 5 frets on the E and A string of a guitar and I was on my own from there. granted, I didn't have my own bass for about 1 or 2 years of having started so I really only played at practice and Sundays. And when I got my first bass I was listening to Metalcore where the bass was indiscernible amidst the distorted guitars and blasting drums. and from there moved on to prog where the bassists were playing far beyond what I could ever imitate at my level then. My Ibanez GSR205 had the same strings and was never set up from the time I got it all the way until I joined jazz band at school in 11th grade, so you can imagine how inspiring it was to play then.

When I look back at all the time that went by when I was a kid, that I squandered playing video games. All I can say is "dang I suck" because I know that if i had really put in practice between these 11-12 years that have passed I'd be one of those guys on Instagram sweep picking and tapping away. If you were to hear me play, you'd think I was a 4-5 year player killing it, but instead I'm a 12 year player far behind. That's why I say I "suck".

Truth be told I'm probably on the same level as alot of y'all on here that don't play professionally. I'm probably a better singer than I am a bassist, but my heart leans on the low end. In fact, I WILL be known to people someday, maybe not as a virtuoso bassist, but as a good musician and song writer for sure, whether that be in the Rock scene, prog scene, worship scene or all three God willing.

anyway for all new commenters on the thread
I already cancelled the order
Alot of you are still commenting "hope you enjoy" or "you do you". Well thanks but it isn't happening anymore.
I don't know how to edit the main post to say I cancelled it already.
 
When I look back at all the time that went by when I was a kid, that I squandered playing video games. All I can say is "dang I suck" because I know that if i had really put in practice between these 11-12 years that have passed I'd be one of those guys on Instagram sweep picking and tapping away. If you were to hear me play, you'd think I was a 4-5 year player killing it, but instead I'm a 12 year player far behind. That's why I say I "suck".

I started around the age of 18, perhaps 19. I practiced diligently for a good while. Then I took the bass lessons I mentioned somewhere in this thread and it sidetracked my study of scales for YEARS. I then started a band with some friends, which went on for years so that part was good, however I fell into the trap of mostly "practising" our set list at home. All the years I wasted there, I will never get back.

You are doing fine, from what I can read.

anyway for all new commenters on the thread
I already cancelled the order
Alot of you are still commenting "hope you enjoy" or "you do you". Well thanks but it isn't happening anymore.
I don't know how to edit the main post to say I cancelled it already.

Welcome to Talkbass. Expect this thread to be revived in a few years by someone who will ignore the date, and tell you to cancel your order :D