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realbooksoftware.com?

OK... what the heck is this?

I have just sent a message to Hal Leonard and asked them to view the website in question. I also implored them to respond to me if it is legit. Their response will be copied here if one arrives.

If this site is not completely on the up-and-up... well for one thing the "© 2007 Real Book Software" at the bottom of the page is totally audacious.
 
That said my one real gripe is the condition of the disc that was delivered, it looks like something previewed I would get from NETFLIX or Blockbuster not a 'new disc' I purchased.
Did it get loose in the case? I've gotten scratched up new CDs and DVDs due to rough handling during shipping. When that happens, I've always been able to have them replaced if it didn't play right and I felt like going through the trouble.

What kind of case was it in?

- Dave
 
Did it get loose in the case? I've gotten scratched up new CDs and DVDs due to rough handling during shipping. When that happens, I've always been able to have them replaced if it didn't play right and I felt like going through the trouble.

What kind of case was it in?

- Dave

Hey Dave, it was in a plain paper sleeve, really no way to explain the damage of the disc I recieved except that it had been used and abused.
 
talk about MAJOR copyright violation!!!

First all the songwriter copyright violations, but than all the violations for the recordings. Seems hypocritical to me. Take an artist you love and learn from and pay them back by ripping them off twice. They have to pay rent too. :scowl:
 
talk about MAJOR copyright violation!!!

First all the songwriter copyright violations, but than all the violations for the recordings. Seems hypocritical to me. Take an artist you love and learn from and pay them back by ripping them off twice. They have to pay rent too. :scowl:

I'm going to agree with the Doc. If you're going to buy the fakebook, at least buy the official copies of them.

I'm going to derail the thread a little, but the worst way to learn these tunes is to read them off a book (or a computer screen). Anyone who's gotten anywhere in jazz will tell you that. I have never played a song off a fake book and internalized it, no matter how many times I've gone through it.

My two cents

Glenn
 
talk about MAJOR copyright violation!!!

First all the songwriter copyright violations, but than all the violations for the recordings. Seems hypocritical to me. Take an artist you love and learn from and pay them back by ripping them off twice. They have to pay rent too. :scowl:
You're violating Herbie Hancock's copyright with your avatar!

:p

- Dave
 
How did this work out Dave. I'm really considering buying it.
I haven't had much time to mess around with it. Here are my impressions (no pun intended) of it so far.

First of all, I never did expect that the Real Book scans would be very high quality. The quality is reasonable enough for viewing on a computer screen but not for printing. People should buy the actual Real Books (for their instrument) anyway (I did). I look at this as more of a quick-reference tool for when I'm sitting in front of the computer. I didn't expect print quality scans so I'm not disappointed.

Similarly, the MP3's (which have no ID3 tag info or readable filenames for obvious reasons) are of reasonable quality (44kHz 128kbps) for reference purposes but any true fan will want to get the original recordings (as I would). I had no expectations of CD quality labeled MP3s anyway.

There is one significant problem I have with this software and that is that it requires an activation key to run. To get an activation key, you submit a code that is given to you after installation. My guess is that this code is tied to the installation (edit: now confirmed by other posts in this thread). In and of itself, this isn't necessarily bad but there are a few consequences of this that I find disturbing.

First, there is no guarantee that, say, 5 years from now I will be able to get a new activation key. If I buy a piece of software, I expect to be able to use it forever. There was a problem many years ago when Passport Encore (a music notation program) required users to periodically go to a web site to obtain a code in order to continue using the product. When the company went out of business, many users were stuck with a program they could no longer run and music scores they could no longer view (thankfully, the software was resurrected by another company; GVOX). I have many software applications that I use regularly by companies that no longer exist. If those apps required new keys to unlock every time they were installed, I'd be screwed. I would never knowingly buy software that had this level of protection. For the same reason, I don't buy DRM protected music.

Additionally, due to this copy protection, I am also likely constrained to only have the software installed on one computer at once. It would be nice if I could use it on my home computer and my laptop so that I could have my charts available at rehearsals and stuff. Most software that I use allows multiple installations for a single user as long as there is no chance of it being used on multiple systems at the same time. If I buy a piece of software and I am the only user, I normally expect (unless otherwise informed) that I can use that software on different computers without having to go through the hoops of uninstalling and reinstalling whenever I go from home to my studio. Some software licenses don't allow this so I can't blame them too much for that.

If this software wasn't DRM (effectively) protected, I would be happy with it. Had I known it had this type of protection, I wouldn't have bought it. As I said, I don't buy anything that is protected by DRM methods that could make it unusable at any moment.

Because of the type of copy protection used, I wouldn't recommend this software despite the fact that there is incredible value in the content that it includes.

Sorry Blake. To be fair, this thread did mention "registration" but I didn't realize what that meant at the time. I should have read the thread better. I wasn't paying too much attention to the details of the discussion and based my decision to buy on the web site video demo.

If this software didn't require a system-specific activation key to work, I would highly recommend it. I can't in good conscience recommend something to someone that they may not be able to use in 5 years. Especially considering the fact that much of the software I own was created by companies that no longer exist and this is the kind of software that someone would conceivably want to use for more than 10 years. I still have my ratty old 20 year old Real Book.

There are other ways of discouraging piracy. Some software I have encodes my name into the activation key so that if the key is distributed, it can be traced to me but is not locked to a single system. I have no problem with that.

- Dave
 
If this software didn't require a system-specific activation key to work, I would highly recommend it. I can't in good conscience recommend something to someone that they may not be able to use in 5 years. Especially considering the fact that much of the software I own was created by companies that no longer exist and this is the kind of software that someone would conceivably want to use for more than 10 years. I still have my ratty old 20 year old Real Book.

This is the reason I haven't bought this software, as well as any other software that works this way. I also tell other people to avoid this type of license code for the reasons you stated.

There are other ways of discouraging piracy. Some software I have encodes my name into the activation key so that if the key is distributed, it can be traced to me but is not locked to a single system. I have no problem with that.

Other than Microsoft's software, almost every other piece of software on my computer (that's not open source) works this way. Here's my name or e-mail, give me the registration code. If you can't do that, you don't get my money.
 
If this software wasn't DRM (effectively) protected, I would be happy with it. Had I known it had this type of protection, I wouldn't have bought it. As I said, I don't buy anything that is protected by DRM methods that could make it unusable at any moment.

Because of the type of copy protection used, I wouldn't recommend this software despite the fact that there is incredible value in the content that it includes.

- Dave

Thanks Dave. This would be going on my work laptop which I turn in every 2 years for an upgrade. I will definitely have to pass on this software atleast until maybe the registration process changes. :(
 
I learned my DRM lesson a long time ago. I bought an early Terminator 2 DVD that included a high definition transfer in Windows Media Player 9 format on the bonus disc. It only took a year for the company hosting the authentication server to refuse access to the content that I had paid for and that existed on a disc that I owned.

I probably would have spent a few thousand dollars at iTunes by now if they had started out offering DRM-free music.

- Dave
 
I try writing two time to Blake M in is private e-mail addresses he will not answer me well that fine by me it a funny way to run a business He will not sell me anything in the future so if you want to take a chance will this character be my guess.Chico62:mad::mad:
 
Hi Chico,
I don't know what 'Private' email address you are referring to but there haven't been any emails that have gone unanswered. In other words you may have sent an email to somebody else in cyberspace. All emails are responded too and usually quite quickly.
I'm not going to put an email address here on the forum but you should have the proper contact info since you have the product.

I will address your audio issue. (There is a troubleshooting section in the Installation guide that talks about this also)
If you have chosen an alternate installation location for the program then you need to tell the program where to find the audios. That is done by entering the proper filepath in the setup page. The only other issue that it could be would have to do with file associations on your system. Both are 5 second fixes.
Hope that helps.