Rec. mike for singing Drummer

[musicman7722]

Hope to get some input here. I work with a lead singing drummer. Good strong voice. I think he uses a 58 beta, whichever is the ball version. I find the mike picks up so much of his kit that it bleeds into my IEM mix terribly and I have to turn him way down. I suspect a tighter mike might be the solution. So any recommendations

Thank you

Chris

 

[RoadRanger]

By "rec." do you mean "recording" or "recommend"?

 

[musicman7722]

Sorry I meant recommend

 

[Winfred]

I know squat about sound reinforcement, but I think the Shure 57 is an "inline" mic, or something. I know guitar players point them directly at their amps when mic'ing. I don't think 57s pick up the sound around them. Uni-dynamic, or some buzz word nonsense, is what they call it.

 

[musicman7722]

Lol

Ok I got off my duff and checked. He uses a Shure SM58 Beta.

As an aside I own Senn. E835 and E935 mikes. Would either of theses be better?

 

[EastCoastThump]

It's a trade-off. Above all, vocal mics need to work with the tone of the singer's voice. Beyond that, stand-held mics with the most off-axis rejection will require your drummer to be right on the mic every time. And whatever off-axis sound they pick up will be colored more.

• If your drummer projects well and sings right on the mic, you might try something like an Audix OM7 (low gain, but very good feedback and off-axis rejection).
  
• If your drummer has a quiet voice and tends to move around a lot on the mic, you might consider a headset mic.
  
• If the drum bleed is only a problem when he's *not* singing, try adusting the gate on his mic channel.

 

[RoadRanger]

Yah, OM7 or EV N/D967 . But try an SM57 or Beta 57a first if you have one. Gating usually makes the vocals "choppy" at best. Ideally he needs to hit softer...

 

[Dave W]

Audix OM-7. You've got to be right on it, which will be good for you but bad for him.

 

[theduke1]

I'd go to a head mic corded or wireless.
That way the mic head is facing the drummerand somewhat shielded from the kit.

 

[Geri O]

Audix OM7 and done. Very, very tight pattern. The use MUST sing right on top of it. But it goes a really long way toward eliminating drum and cymbal spill in his vocal mic.

 

[tfer]

I don't use Shure microphones, because I'm not a fan of how they sound or their output levels. Instead, I use Beyer Dynamic, and if I had to make a recommendation, it'd be this one:

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[morgansterne]

Our last gig was multi-track recorded and I've been mixing the tracks.
Our drummer has a headset mic and it picks up plenty of the kit. In my in-ears I can't tell all that much, but listening back to his vocal track solo'ed, there's a lot of drums in it.
My audix OM5 actually picked up less stage sound than the sm57's on the two guitar amps!

 

[moody]

Two mics? One phase reversed to cancel the drum spill in the first?

I think more trouble than it is worth.

 

[ptleftybass]

Lol

Ok I got off my duff and checked. He uses a Shure SM58 Beta.

As an aside I own Senn. E835 and E935 mikes. Would either of theses be better?

+1

 

[Humbled]

Audix OM7 and done. Very, very tight pattern. The use MUST sing right on top of it. But it goes a really long way toward eliminating drum and cymbal spill in his vocal mic.

Geri O is correct as usual.

 

[1954bassman]

Overdub his vocals. Clean track.

 

[spaz21387]

I was in a band with a singing drummer we never used iem's but he used one of those head set mics you know like pop stars used. It worked well.

 

[Silas Stingy]

I made a couple of live multitrack recordings of one of my bands last week. The first with the drummer on a SM58 and the second with and Audix OM5, the bleed on the Audix was half of the 58. I've used the OM7 for my own vocal in the past and it takes some getting used to, I think the OM5 is a great compromise.
The bonus is if it clears up your IEM then it also clears up the main mix.

 

[Medicine Man]

I can't get the drums off the vocal track no matter what mic I try. I alway jokingly refer to my drummer's headset as the "3rd drum overhead."

 

[fokof]

My drummer uses a Shure Beta54
Wired , headworn.


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