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Double Bass Recent Amtrak trip with my DB (NYC-DC)

This past weekend I took my double bass on Amtrak from NYC to Washington DC and back. I did a lot of research beforehand and didn't find much recent info on the topic, so wanted to share my experience in hopes it's helpful to others. Overall, the trip went fine but it was stressful and I hope to not repeat it any time soon. (I have a beautiful antique DB, traveling with a cheaper instrument might have been a lot less stressful...)

Summary:
  • Travel at off peak times to ensure seats are available.
  • Redcaps were a lifesaver. Bring cash to tip them!
  • You should buy a second ticket for the bass, but conductors probably won't check it.
  • People nearly fell on my bass twice when moving through the car. Stay alert and be communicative with people who are hovering around your space.
Details:

I do not own a hard case for my DB so I planned to take it onboard. Based on what I could find online, I bought a second seat for the bass. I was pretty sure it wouldn't fit in any of the seats except for the ones at the end of the car that have a big space in front of them. I picked an off-peak time to travel, and in the future, I'd probably also try to pick a train originating at NYP to ensure seat availability.

When I got to NYP, I found the Redcaps hidden behind a coffee shop in Moynihan Train Hall. They asked me if I had bought a separate ticket for the bass and I assured them I had. They let me sit in the waiting area for passengers who need Redcap assistance. This is the ONLY seating in Moynihan, so I was very grateful.

The train was delayed over an hour but when it was finally time to board, I and other passengers in the Redcap area got to board first. The Redcaps put my luggage on a cart, and I held onto my DB. They showed us to an elevator down to the platform and very kindly helped me find the seat I needed, at the end of the car on the left-hand side, across the aisle from the accessible seats. (Note: the seats on the left are not accessible seats, so I didn't feel bad taking the space.) I put the bass in the window seat and sat next to it. There was plenty of space in front for the bass. I don't think I found the optimal positioning for it, but I tried to make sure the back was supported against the seat, and not all the weight was just leaning on the neck.

I was all ready to show the conductor my second ticket for the DB, but after scanning mine, they immediately walked away. However, having the second ticket made me feel better about it taking up a full seat :)

As the train filled up, people started to put their luggage in the spare space on the floor in front of my DB. I did politely request some people move their bags to the wide-open space on the other side of the aisle to avoid any luggage collisions with the DB. People also would often hover around the area where the DB was, as it was right near the door to the cafe car. It was very stressful as I was constantly trying to stay alert and ensure people weren't about to fall onto the bass (someone almost did).

Exiting the train was difficult as not all the doors were opened, so I had to walk my DB and all my luggage several cars down, but I managed.

On the return trip from DC, I found the Redcaps again, and they were as helpful as they were in NYC, carrying the rest of my luggage and helping me find a great seat on the train. Again, the conductor only scanned my ticket and didn't ask for a ticket for the bass. This train had fewer people on board, but people still managed to crowd my bass, trip right near it, and generally be a nuisance. I leaned the seat it was on back a little, so I could move the bass up higher on the seat.

It was a huge relief when I was finally home and had the bass seated on its normal stand, but overall, the trip went pretty well. I'd do it again if I really had to. 😂
 

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I’m confused about you walking through several cars to get off the train. Was that something that was avoidable ?
That must have been vey challenging since those aisles are not too wide.

Many years ago I attended a Dave Holland clinic at David Gage’s shop on Walker St. NYC. He told us all a story about a trip he took to Europe with his double bass. While waiting for a connecting train he had his bass lying on its side on the platform. The express train passed through the station at a very high speed and sucked his bass right onto the tracks and totally destroyed it. Luckily since he has a huge worldwide network he was able to borrow a bass for his next show.
 
Hmmm. My wife and I have talked about an Amtrak cross-country trip with instruments again. We'd get a sleeper of course....

We did this about 30 years ago, before I had a double bass, but at that time we had 2 toddlers and a full size guitar and a full size banjo with us in addition to our luggage. The sleeper helped a lot of course, but it was still a challenge.

Our toddlers are grown up now so they would not be a part of this trip. I'd love to travel by Amtrak with my DB but it sounds pretty difficult logistically, even with a sleeper. I also only have a cushioned soft bag, no hard case; it's an aluminum double bass, but I still don't want to thrash it.

Anyone have any experiences with this?
 
Thanks for the information. Great read and further confirms my stand on traveling with my DB. Never… I’m not a professional player but the money would have to be so good, and the gig pretty great for me to think about renting one when I got there. But these are personal/professional choices we all make.

What was the show? Was it worth it? Just curious.
 
I can't comment on the train-specific aspects, but I will point out that when you have a large fragile object with you, out in amongst the general public, you have to keep in mind that most people are completely devoid of any kind of situational awareness, and a large number combine that with almost total clumsiness and lack of proprioception (the ability to understand where one's own body is and how much space it takes up). They WILL stumble over ANYTHING in their path, no matter how big or brightly colored.
 
This past weekend I took my double bass on Amtrak from NYC to Washington DC and back. I did a lot of research beforehand and didn't find much recent info on the topic, so wanted to share my experience in hopes it's helpful to others. Overall, the trip went fine but it was stressful and I hope to not repeat it any time soon. (I have a beautiful antique DB, traveling with a cheaper instrument might have been a lot less stressful...)

Summary:
  • Travel at off peak times to ensure seats are available.
  • Redcaps were a lifesaver. Bring cash to tip them!
  • You should buy a second ticket for the bass, but conductors probably won't check it.
  • People nearly fell on my bass twice when moving through the car. Stay alert and be communicative with people who are hovering around your space.
Details:

I do not own a hard case for my DB so I planned to take it onboard. Based on what I could find online, I bought a second seat for the bass. I was pretty sure it wouldn't fit in any of the seats except for the ones at the end of the car that have a big space in front of them. I picked an off-peak time to travel, and in the future, I'd probably also try to pick a train originating at NYP to ensure seat availability.

When I got to NYP, I found the Redcaps hidden behind a coffee shop in Moynihan Train Hall. They asked me if I had bought a separate ticket for the bass and I assured them I had. They let me sit in the waiting area for passengers who need Redcap assistance. This is the ONLY seating in Moynihan, so I was very grateful.

The train was delayed over an hour but when it was finally time to board, I and other passengers in the Redcap area got to board first. The Redcaps put my luggage on a cart, and I held onto my DB. They showed us to an elevator down to the platform and very kindly helped me find the seat I needed, at the end of the car on the left-hand side, across the aisle from the accessible seats. (Note: the seats on the left are not accessible seats, so I didn't feel bad taking the space.) I put the bass in the window seat and sat next to it. There was plenty of space in front for the bass. I don't think I found the optimal positioning for it, but I tried to make sure the back was supported against the seat, and not all the weight was just leaning on the neck.

I was all ready to show the conductor my second ticket for the DB, but after scanning mine, they immediately walked away. However, having the second ticket made me feel better about it taking up a full seat :)

As the train filled up, people started to put their luggage in the spare space on the floor in front of my DB. I did politely request some people move their bags to the wide-open space on the other side of the aisle to avoid any luggage collisions with the DB. People also would often hover around the area where the DB was, as it was right near the door to the cafe car. It was very stressful as I was constantly trying to stay alert and ensure people weren't about to fall onto the bass (someone almost did).

Exiting the train was difficult as not all the doors were opened, so I had to walk my DB and all my luggage several cars down, but I managed.

On the return trip from DC, I found the Redcaps again, and they were as helpful as they were in NYC, carrying the rest of my luggage and helping me find a great seat on the train. Again, the conductor only scanned my ticket and didn't ask for a ticket for the bass. This train had fewer people on board, but people still managed to crowd my bass, trip right near it, and generally be a nuisance. I leaned the seat it was on back a little, so I could move the bass up higher on the seat.

It was a huge relief when I was finally home and had the bass seated on its normal stand, but overall, the trip went pretty well. I'd do it again if I really had to. 😂

Sounds harrowing. I’d be nervous with my 2011 carved bass- forget about doing it with an antique, especially given the below freezing temps we’ve had recently and all the fluctuations in temperature between indoors and outdoors required in travel. I’m curious whether this Amtrak trip with two round trip tickets would have been cheaper than renting a car, not to mention getting around DC once you were there.
 
If you buy a business class seat, you can reserve your seat in advance. Choose a seat closest to the front end of the car, near the rest rooms. There's a large empty space for a wheelchair that's usually used for luggage, and you'd be able to make sure your second seat is beside you. In many, many Amtrak trips, I've never seen that area booked as a seat.

I often use them to Newark airport, with lots of luggage, and that open area is a lifesaver.
 
This is great info, thank you! If it's not too intrusive a question, how much did you end up tipping the Red Caps?

And to answer a previous poster, I have run into the problem of having to change cars before exiting the train several times on Amtrak, mostly in large stations on the eastern seaboard, but they do it on some of the big lines in the west, too. It's a pain. But I've never had to carry a double bass, which I think would be a double pain.
 
This past weekend I took my double bass on Amtrak from NYC to Washington DC and back. I did a lot of research beforehand and didn't find much recent info on the topic, so wanted to share my experience in hopes it's helpful to others. Overall, the trip went fine but it was stressful and I hope to not repeat it any time soon. (I have a beautiful antique DB, traveling with a cheaper instrument might have been a lot less stressful...)

Summary:
  • Travel at off peak times to ensure seats are available.
  • Redcaps were a lifesaver. Bring cash to tip them!
  • You should buy a second ticket for the bass, but conductors probably won't check it.
  • People nearly fell on my bass twice when moving through the car. Stay alert and be communicative with people who are hovering around your space.
Details:

I do not own a hard case for my DB so I planned to take it onboard. Based on what I could find online, I bought a second seat for the bass. I was pretty sure it wouldn't fit in any of the seats except for the ones at the end of the car that have a big space in front of them. I picked an off-peak time to travel, and in the future, I'd probably also try to pick a train originating at NYP to ensure seat availability.

When I got to NYP, I found the Redcaps hidden behind a coffee shop in Moynihan Train Hall. They asked me if I had bought a separate ticket for the bass and I assured them I had. They let me sit in the waiting area for passengers who need Redcap assistance. This is the ONLY seating in Moynihan, so I was very grateful.

The train was delayed over an hour but when it was finally time to board, I and other passengers in the Redcap area got to board first. The Redcaps put my luggage on a cart, and I held onto my DB. They showed us to an elevator down to the platform and very kindly helped me find the seat I needed, at the end of the car on the left-hand side, across the aisle from the accessible seats. (Note: the seats on the left are not accessible seats, so I didn't feel bad taking the space.) I put the bass in the window seat and sat next to it. There was plenty of space in front for the bass. I don't think I found the optimal positioning for it, but I tried to make sure the back was supported against the seat, and not all the weight was just leaning on the neck.

I was all ready to show the conductor my second ticket for the DB, but after scanning mine, they immediately walked away. However, having the second ticket made me feel better about it taking up a full seat :)

As the train filled up, people started to put their luggage in the spare space on the floor in front of my DB. I did politely request some people move their bags to the wide-open space on the other side of the aisle to avoid any luggage collisions with the DB. People also would often hover around the area where the DB was, as it was right near the door to the cafe car. It was very stressful as I was constantly trying to stay alert and ensure people weren't about to fall onto the bass (someone almost did).

Exiting the train was difficult as not all the doors were opened, so I had to walk my DB and all my luggage several cars down, but I managed.

On the return trip from DC, I found the Redcaps again, and they were as helpful as they were in NYC, carrying the rest of my luggage and helping me find a great seat on the train. Again, the conductor only scanned my ticket and didn't ask for a ticket for the bass. This train had fewer people on board, but people still managed to crowd my bass, trip right near it, and generally be a nuisance. I leaned the seat it was on back a little, so I could move the bass up higher on the seat.

It was a huge relief when I was finally home and had the bass seated on its normal stand, but overall, the trip went pretty well. I'd do it again if I really had to. 😂
Oh, I can certainly understand the angst. I’ll be the next you won’t be taking this bass on a train without a hard case.
 
I’m confused about you walking through several cars to get off the train. Was that something that was avoidable ?
That must have been vey challenging since those aisles are not too wide.
Unavoidable—at some stations, they don't open all the train doors due to station design or platform construction (I was getting off at the stop before Union Station, a smaller station with some platform construction). I turned a lot of heads trying to squeeze through the aisles with my bass...
What was the show? Was it worth it? Just curious.
Absolutely worth it! My band had the chance to play at a huge festival, show went great and we even sold some CDs. :) I also squeezed in a second performance with another group at the same festival while I was there.
Sounds harrowing. I’d be nervous with my 2011 carved bass- forget about doing it with an antique, especially given the below freezing temps we’ve had recently and all the fluctuations in temperature between indoors and outdoors required in travel. I’m curious whether this Amtrak trip with two round trip tickets would have been cheaper than renting a car, not to mention getting around DC once you were there.
It was cheaper. Tickets were about $40 each way, so $160 for 4, plus I had to pay $80 for Lyfts to get to and from the train station = $240 total. Not cheap, but Invalid Link Removed estimates it's $170 to drive, and that's not counting parking or rental prices (which are crazy in NYC).

I also didn't go anywhere in DC but the festival, I'd think more carefully about a rental car if I needed transport around a city in addition to getting to and from.
This is great info, thank you! If it's not too intrusive a question, how much did you end up tipping the Red Caps?
$5!