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Recommended Cab for Kemper Head

#41
Take your Kemper into a store that has a good selection of PA/FOH gear.
You'll find a lot of FOH gear is ideal for modeling.

Don't limit your self to to gear targeted just for "bass".

Yamaha, JBL, QSC ... all have excellent products, at competitive prices, and easily scale up. For a bass a single top and a good sub can go a long way. And don't forget these kind of products are going to provide actual measurements and graphs for you to compare before you go to the store.

Greenboy designs are probably the only exception here for targeted to "bass", they do also have actual measurements.
 
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#42
Passinwind said:
Thunderchild 118, 212, or 112.
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monsterthompson said:
duke is making the 118 TC in 8ohms, so that is another good option. his Hathor cabs are voiced, and the TC cabs tend to be more flat/accurate.
Thunderchild 118

600w into that should be pretty decent.
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#44
I think the full range PA cab idea is a good one. However, I wonder if they intend for those cabs to be crossed over and used with subs.

Fearful with a true crossover or Fearless, Thunderchild, Barefaced. I think those will be your best bet for flat bass cabs. I'm Barefaced biased, but I don't okay the cabs I think would be best from their line. I'd suspect that their full range, powered pa cabs that were just released could be a good option if you decide to go active.

I'm really interested in the results, as I'm toying with the idea of a Kemper.
 
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mccoyra said:
Go the route of the Kemper faithful (like me) who use it for both guitar and bass and get an Atomic CLR Passive cab. Best FRFR speaker for a modeler ever built
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I've got a pair of active CLR cabinets and no joke, they are fantastic full range speakers that excel at guitar modeler reproduction, as well as any general PA sound reinforcement. I will say that the powered version is a mixed bag for bass, and speculate that the passives might be made to coax a better overall result if the signal is processed with bass in mind, with lots of power to help things along. The active CLR can run out of gas below 80hz when pushed hard IMHO. I like LOUD. A pair of CLRs with an active mini subwoofer is a devastating live rig. Only had the chance to do that once, and it killed.

But I still use the CLR for moderate level gigs, and at a healthy volume at home to create modeled sounds for live use. They are an extremely accurate speaker system, especially at the price point, and I'll say it again, for guitar modeling they are excellent, best in class IMO.
 
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Amplified said:
All the brands mentioned are not available in my country...so the questions and I appreciate all the help here.
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still waiting to know your country so we can help with a selection. all we know is that you have a TecAmp S212 available. A fine cab, but the m212 might be a better choice.

Amplified said:
Just for practice in my music room. I play mainly 5-string.
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though for music room practice, i don't know why you want a 212. You could get along with a 112 fine considering you will be pushing 600w. do you mean full band practice, or solo?
 
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monsterthompson said:
still waiting to know your country so we can help with a selection. all we know is that you have a TecAmp S212 available. A fine cab, but the m212 might be a better choice.



though for music room practice, i don't know why you want a 212. You could get along with a 112 fine considering you will be pushing 600w. do you mean full band practice, or solo?
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Prefer to remain private. Used for room and practice, no band.
 
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jimfist said:
I've got a pair of active CLR cabinets and no joke, they are fantastic full range speakers that excel at guitar modeler reproduction, as well as any general PA sound reinforcement. I will say that the powered version is a mixed bag for bass, and speculate that the passives might be made to coax a better overall result if the signal is processed with bass in mind, with lots of power to help things along. The active CLR can run out of gas below 80hz when pushed hard IMHO. I like LOUD. A pair of CLRs with an active mini subwoofer is a devastating live rig. Only had the chance to do that once, and it killed.

But I still use the CLR for moderate level gigs, and at a healthy volume at home to create modeled sounds for live use. They are an extremely accurate speaker system, especially at the price point, and I'll say it again, for guitar modeling they are excellent, best in class IMO.
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I've heard a lot of good things about them! I'm guessing that as they're designed for guitar FRFR they don't have much excursion and they're highpassed at a higher frequency than ideal for bass. The midrange horn is a nice idea - the coax tweeter in front of the woofer is similar to what we did on the Midget T.
 
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alexclaber said:
I've heard a lot of good things about them! I'm guessing that as they're designed for guitar FRFR they don't have much excursion and they're highpassed at a higher frequency than ideal for bass. The midrange horn is a nice idea - the coax tweeter in front of the woofer is similar to what we did on the Midget T.
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I agree, that the CLR is intended to be used for program material that doesn't have too much going on below 80hz, and if so an additional subwoofer would be employed. The active version has a SUBWOOFER select switch that engages an audible hi pass filter to further minimize low end output from the CLR.

My personal takeaway from using the CLR is as previously stated: excellent general duty sound reproduction/reinforcement speaker, excellent clarity and wide, even dispersion; sub low frequencies at high volumes will stress things, but at low, "reasonable" volumes will handle bass instruments just as well as anything else. It is popularly used with guitar modeling, and a single 12" coax CLR can get very, very loud and remain clear as a bell.

If my needs were purely and exclusively bass guitar, I'd likely have gone with something different. However, since going the modeler route for all my sounds, all of my sound reinforcement cabinets were chosen for portability, modularity, and flexibility. Though I can't give the CLR an A+ for bass guitar alone, it certainly is deserving of the A+ rating on all other accounts. If you're in the same sort of position, I couldn't recommend them any more highly.
 
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alexclaber said:
Sounds like we have some serious competition there!
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LOL. Atomic Amplifiers is a very small company out of Connecticut, USA run by a guy named Tom King. The CLR design is by a hired consultant named Jay Mitchell. Unless there is a demonstrable demand for extended range bass cabinets - a much smaller market than guitarists who use modeling, unfortunately - I doubt that they will expand much beyond the CLR for a while. Demand for the CLR is still pretty high, from what I hear.

They also make a floor pedal modeler/multi-fx that uses Impulse Responses for cabinet simulation (allows user IRs to be loaded) called the Amplifire, and the combo of it and the CLR are a match made in heaven for those who like a wide range of modeled sounds in a very compact package. I just wish they would cross over into the Bass realm with their stuff. It's very worthy gear for serious players.
 
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jimfist said:
LOL. Atomic Amplifiers is a very small company out of Connecticut, USA run by a guy named Tom King. The CLR design is by a hired consultant named Jay Mitchell. Unless there is a demonstrable demand for extended range bass cabinets - a much smaller market than guitarists who use modeling, unfortunately - I doubt that they will expand much beyond the CLR for a while.
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I didn't mean in the bass realm (fortunately!) I meant in the guitar modelling realm which we're moving sideways into with the FR800 (active) and Big Twin 2, Big Baby 2 and Super Midget (passive).
 
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#60
Mission Engineering has the Gemini Series of cabs just for this purpose. They are top quality. Laney makes an FRFR cab that also accepts and passes through the powered output of a tube amp. Sort of a loadbox/extension cab in one but really it's purpose is to reproduce the amps power section tone. IRT-X I believe.

The Gemini Cabs are fantastic.
 

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