Refusing to play at places where smoking is allowed

[Smooth_bass88]

I can imagine playing 6 nights a week 5 sets Monday through Thursday and 6 set Saturday and Sunday. I'm 54 and in the 70's we called it "playing full-time." Our singer managed to sing, we all managed to play and the world didn't end.

This younger generation has gotten soft.

So, I'm "soft" because I have an asthma attack whenever I've had to breathe in 2nd hand smoke?? Really??

Smoking hurts people. Plain and simple. The OP has a valid point, and again I say: WE ALL HAVE THE RIGHT TO CLEAN AIR!

 

[Smallmouth_Bass]

I can imagine playing 6 nights a week 5 sets Monday through Thursday and 6 set Saturday and Sunday. I'm 54 and in the 70's we called it "playing full-time." Our singer managed to sing, we all managed to play and the world didn't end.

This younger generation has gotten soft.

Yeah, but tell us the truth. That same singer sounds like Yoda now, doesn't he?
Or even better, Leonard Cohen!

 

[spade2you]

I would say we've gotten smart. Lots of things are different than in the 70's - for better or worse.

Soft, smart, tomato, tomahto.

Once you get used to the good stuff, it's hard to go back. With smoking banned in many areas, yes it makes us a little more sensitive now that we don't need to always deal with it.

I mean, once you get to be a solid bassist, it's not like you're looked down upon if you're no longer playing with out of tune guitarists and out of time drummers. It's called progress.

 

[nortonrider]

I agree 100%, just pointing out the diversion.

I actually see a lot of similarities between the two.

Except one group has had their "liberties" legislated away from them and the other is free to continue risking the health of others with their irresponsible actions.

I wonder how many anti-smoking nazis would blow a gasket if they had their "Right" to cellphone and drive taken away from them.
(for the safety of the children - of course)

Remember...... I am NOT a smoker!

 

[spade2you]

I actually see a lot of similarities between the two.

Except one group has had their "liberties" legislated away from them and the other is free to continue risking the health of others with their irresponsible actions.

I wonder how many anti-smoking nazis would blow a gasket if they had their "Right" to cellphone and drive taken away from them.
(for the safety of the children - of course)

Remember...... I am NOT a smoker!

To be honest, I have no idea why there aren't rules against it already. It has long been a proven danger. There is simply no need to text while driving that overrides safety.

 

[nortonrider]

To be honest, I have no idea why there aren't rules against it already. It has long been a proven danger. There is simply no need to text while driving that overrides safety.

powerful lobbyist!

 

[bolophonic]

I took my baby to the park today and the toddler area was littered in cigarette butts.

They do grow up fast these days, don't they.

Nicely done.

 

[spade2you]

powerful lobbyist!

Must be because it's an election year. No real controversy. Neither party stands to gain from it.

 

[mndean]

I was born in a house with a smoker, so I had no choice. The gift I got was chronic bronchitis. I enjoyed the rattling wheezes I made when I was forced to run by the gym teacher, and the taste of blood in my breath. Oh, and the yearly bout of pneumonia was always fun.


Ah, good times...

 

[modulusman]

The next town over from mine passed a no cellphone law while driving earlier this year.

 

[Smallmouth_Bass]

Here, you have to be hands free (Bluetooth, speakerphone, etc...). Have a handheld one or texting fines are minimal ($130, I think) considering the dangers involved, especially texting.

 

[nortonrider]

Nope!
If I was King,
it would be No celphone usage at all. No hands free, no nothing.

Just like the smoking ban means no cigarettes, no cigars, no pipes, etc..

 

[Lee H]

I actually see a lot of similarities between the two.

Except one group has had their "liberties" legislated away from them and the other is free to continue risking the health of others with their irresponsible actions.

I wonder how many anti-smoking nazis would blow a gasket if they had their "Right" to cellphone and drive taken away from them.
(for the safety of the children - of course)

Remember...... I am NOT a smoker!

yeah, Uhm that passed a long time ago in California... Hands free devices only. No handheld wireless phones while driving. No texting either

 

[LiquidMidnight]

I'm not sure what the law is in PA, it's never come up at any of the gigs we've gotten but there are private clubs like VFW's and Lodges that do allow smoking and they've asked us to play.

Smoking is banned in licensed establishments in PA, but there are two major loopholes that clubs can exploit to allow smoking: 1). If they have low food sales as part of their business (I can't recall the percentage at the moment), or 2). If they forbid anyone under 18 from entering, which means that if food sales are part of their business, only people 18 and over can eat there.

 

[darrellcampman1]

I'm a smoker, and this is my excuse for still smoking... When the medical community can FINALLY tell me for sure wether or not eggs are healthy, thats when I'll quit. However, I agree that if you don't want to be around smoke, thats your decision. Just don't plan on working much if you live in a state where smoking isn't banned. FYI I live in New York, so it's a moot point here. Best of luck to the op!

 

[spade2you]

Nope!
If I was King,
it would be No celphone usage at all. No hands free, no nothing.

Just like the smoking ban means no cigarettes, no cigars, no pipes, etc..

Just as I suspected 100% diversionary tactic.

 

[Factor88]

I can imagine playing 6 nights a week 5 sets Monday through Thursday and 6 set Saturday and Sunday. I'm 54 and in the 70's we called it "playing full-time." Our singer managed to sing, we all managed to play and the world didn't end.

Thank You!

I'm still singing now and contrary to what someone wrote above I hardly sound like yoda from all those years breathing secondhand smoke.


Changing the subject slightly, I was recently reading a magazine article where an MD was saying that certain types of yearly or semi-yearly tests could result in early detection of many diseases and substanitally increase chances of full recovery. So isn't it at least possible that the $ a person loses by not doing smoking gigs could in theory have gone to paying for better preventative medical care? And isn't it possible that the health benefits from this better medical care outweigh the health risks of playing the smoking venues? Just a thought.......

 

[JehuJava]

So, I'm "soft" because I have an asthma attack whenever I've had to breathe in 2nd hand smoke?? Really??

Smoking hurts people. Plain and simple. The OP has a valid point, and again I say: WE ALL HAVE THE RIGHT TO CLEAN AIR!

But it's ok though to go to a Roger Water's super concert and breathe in second hand pot smoke? Many of these people smoking pot are non-smokers...not all...but many. I've seen pot smokers tell someone sneaking a cigarette at the Oakland concert to put their cigarette out.

 

[Gaius46]

So, I'm "soft" because I have an asthma attack whenever I've had to breathe in 2nd hand smoke?? Really??

Smoking hurts people. Plain and simple. The OP has a valid point, and again I say: WE ALL HAVE THE RIGHT TO CLEAN AIR!

In public yes. Inside a private establishment you have no such right.

And in point of fact the "clean" air in public is not all that clean anyway. Even away from the city. I love the smell of fireplaces and wood burning stoves in fall. Too bad the smoke from them is every bit as bad for you as second hand cigarette smoke.

 

[Smallmouth_Bass]

But it's ok though to go to a Roger Water's super concert and breathe in second hand pot smoke? Many of these people smoking pot are non-smokers...not all...but many. I've seen pot smokers tell someone sneaking a cigarette at the Oakland concert to put their cigarette out.

No, that's bad too!