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Reiner Amplification Megathread

Regarding compression, live:

I've never been much for using pedals, but lately I've taken to using an Ovni Smoothie in front of my amp input. That one's got knobs for wet/dry, so I set 'em to 50-50, and keep the ratio low. It does seem to give a bit of polish to my sound without robbing the touch sensitivity.
 
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Hey, Jonathan, forgive me if this has been asked before (especially if I was the one who asked it), but is the new update to the Box O' Tone safe if someone forgets to turn off the 48 Volt Phantom power before plugging a line into the DI? Obviously, this isn't the plan, but I'm not always confident in the mixing board hygiene of people I don't know. I figure with the Jensen transformer, it should be okay.

Listened to the video you posted on the Reiner facebook page -- will listen again with a more critical ear, but at first blush it sounds good -- bass and treble boosts seem nicely balanced, and I could hear how the gain-boost filled out the midrange when the bass and treble boosts were both engaged.

Personally, I think "Robot" (The Reiner Robot!) sounds cooler than "Super Box O' Tone," but the latter is more clearly descriptive, which will help with the late-night ad campaign.
 
Hey, Jonathan, forgive me if this has been asked before (especially if I was the one who asked it), but is the new update to the Box O' Tone safe if someone forgets to turn off the 48 Volt Phantom power before plugging a line into the DI? Obviously, this isn't the plan, but I'm not always confident in the mixing board hygiene of people I don't know. I figure with the Jensen transformer, it should be okay.

Listened to the video you posted on the Reiner facebook page -- will listen again with a more critical ear, but at first blush it sounds good -- bass and treble boosts seem nicely balanced, and I could hear how the gain-boost filled out the midrange when the bass and treble boosts were both engaged.

Personally, I think "Robot" (The Reiner Robot!) sounds cooler than "Super Box O' Tone," but the latter is more clearly descriptive, which will help with the late-night ad campaign.


Hi Mark!

Yeah, the Jensen should provide isolation should someone hit it with the 48V, so no worries there.

Agreed it needs a better name - maybe just stick with the original BoT - I just added the "super" to differentiate from the original, but since there were only a couple built, its probably not necessary!
 
Hi Mark!

Yeah, the Jensen should provide isolation should someone hit it with the 48V, so no worries there.

Agreed it needs a better name - maybe just stick with the original BoT - I just added the "super" to differentiate from the original, but since there were only a couple built, its probably not necessary!
Between Super BoT and BoT, I think keep "Super", but then a lack of differentiation would bug me.

Super-BoT isn't a bad name -- has a bit of the robot thing going on when you put it that way, too. Superbot.
 
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Just had a very fun day with Jonathan going over new amps, experimental cabs, several cool basses...perfect gear nerd day!
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Pictured top to bottom is the Super BoT, Studio 1200 and a 6SL7 pre. So much fun to go back and forth between them. Such great gear and such a great hang! Jonathan took his first stab at upright bass today as well!
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Full disclosure! Jonathan is a friend and the 6SL7 pre is mine, but I paid FULL price, so no endorsement shenanigans!
 
News flash... not: Studio 1200 is still my favorite amp ever. Assorted gig shots from last Saturday:



Knob settings below might not reflect actual gig usage :D
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Hammond B3 + Leslies hogging up limited stage space
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Band's-eye view of the Potomac, from Old Dominion Boat Club, Alexandria VA. It's their annual fund-raiser luau. Great crowd, always a fun gig
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Surprise fireworks. Animation courtesy of Google Photos "auto awesome" feature
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Glad to see I'm not going crazy, I have been playing it mostly with tone knobs at noon. So different to be able to get such a good sound without extreme settings. Genius

I generally leave mine at noon (aside from treble boost for my NV610), but it depends. F'r instance, at my July 4th backyard gig I was getting FOH support, but the guitarist running the PA seemed to be putting too much low end on my channel, because it was boomy onstage. I'm guessing he made the all-too-common mistake of "it's bass guitar, so I should turn up the bass knob on the EQ" :banghead:. I cut lows and boosted mids so I could hear myself better. I didn't say anything because (1) it was a sub gig, and (2) I didn't know what it sounded like out front.

Last Saturday I knew stage space would be limited so I didn't bother with pedals. For parts of the show I cranked Gain past noon to add some warmth. Very nice!
 
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I was gonna wait to do this (could be said about lots of things), but here we go anyway.

This afternoon, I received a package in the mail. In that package was the SuperBoT (Superbot! I am lobbying for that name -- I'm going to use it, anyway.). Jonathan has been kind enough to let me try it out for awhile. Picked it up at the post office mid-grocery run, got home, threw stuff in the freezer, and was playing it inside five minutes (well, inside ten for sure).

Obviously still getting to know the thing (the variable impedance, for instance, is cool, has a palpable effect on tone and feel -- at least with the passive setup I played today -- and merits exploration), but I couldn't resist making a quick recording before having to run out the door again.

Hastily mic-ed the cab and also took the D.I. feed from the BoT. Just the neck pickup. Details in the Soundcloud description:

Very quick and dirty recording – here's how:

Bass (Fender Power Jazz Bass Special - a “reverse” Precision with a Jazz pickup at the bridge; Reed James Vintage Vibe pickups and a middle-aged set of Ken Smith Burners strings) into a Reiner Amplification Super Box O' Tone (SuperBoT!). Unbalanced 1/4” out of the BoT into one side of a Lab Gruppen fp2200 power amp into a Michael Arnopol Soundworks MAS 112 cab, mic-ed with an Audio Technica AT-2035 into one side of a Roland Quad Capture interface. Balanced XLR out of the BoT into the other side of the Quad Capture. Everything via the Quad Capture into Garageband on a macbook, mic-ed and D.I.ed signals recorded simultaneously.

Played in the living room of my apartment as loudly as I felt I could get away with for the duration of the recording – nothing like gig level, but louder than I practice. Mic placement – about 5 feet from the cab, pointing toward it but not at any particular driver, nestled in a travel pillow atop a stool. This can no doubt be improved upon.

Everything in one take, pausing only to flip switches on the BoT. Everything on the neck pickup, with the tone control on the bass fully open. Order is no boost, gain boost, bass boost, treble boost, gain and bass boosts, then gain, bass, and treble boosts. I didn't record bass+treble (would've been a good one) or gain + treble.


I wasn't sure about sharing the mic-ed recording -- there's an art to mic-ing cabs, which I've largely ignored here. Maybe I'll ask Mike or the Big E guys how they recommend going about it. Meanwhile, I figured putting the mic out-in-the-room-ish would give a general sense of the sound without me having to worry about being too precise with with it. In addition to room echo, the mic's picking up the acoustic sound of my bass/fingers/fret clank. I am more conscious of my sins as they are conveyed through these things -- and of my voice! -- here than in the direct recording, but I don't feel bad enough about either to prevent my sharing it in the name of science. ;)


Here's the D.I.:



The coming days are pretty busy for me, but I'll post recordings and observations as I'm able.

That's all for now!