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Return or try to get fixed? G&L mj4

#41
Soooooooooooooo.... yeah... I'm the "JERK" that NORMALLY chimes in, and blames the buyer due to remorse, or user error...
This is TOTALLY different. SEND IT BACK. As much as I LOVE green basses... and as pretty as She is... there isn't enough Tylenol and patience to deal with this.

Too bad that you can't charge GC for the work, and time that you put into TRYING to accept this instrument.



Just saying.
 
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Ethix4 said:
scary! I have an mj5 i adore and would hate for this to happen to it as well. I think the same thing happened nut snapped off rod and previous owner took his losses at gc on it .
Every neck I've felt from them had all very different shapes and sizes.
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I've read that many G&L Bass owners, set the bass in their lap, or clamp it on a bench and if straightening the neck they physically bend the neck to straighten it, and while holding the neck straighter have someone else snug the truss rod, so the truss isn't actually doing the straightening. But just holds it to the straighter position.
if I have to ever adjust (straighten) one of my G&L basses necks going forward, that's how I'll attempt it.
I read that from Greg from Rocket Music on one of his threads.
 
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FearNoEvil65 said:
I've read that many G&L Bass owners, set the bass in their lap, or clamp it on a bench and if straightening the neck they physically bend the neck to straighten it, and while holding the neck straighter have someone else snug the truss rod, so the truss isn't actually doing the straightening. But just holds it to the straighter position.
if I have to ever adjust (straighten) one of my G&L basses necks going forward, that's how I'll attempt it.
I read that from Greg from Rocket Music on one of his threads.
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I've known about this advice and so wondered how come the factory sent me a neck with a maxed out truss rod and action so high I could drop the tuning to BEAD.
 
#45
Ethix4 said:
I returned it at the store and didn't realize this I drove away and read the receipt but they even got me on 25$ Shipping still! For returning their defective gear… taking it up to corporate tomorrow , was told by my gear rep that I bought it with over the phone I would be fully refunded.
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Thats why I mentioned to demand it. They wont offer to refund shipping if you don't ask.
 
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FearNoEvil65 said:
I've read that many G&L Bass owners, set the bass in their lap, or clamp it on a bench and if straightening the neck they physically bend the neck to straighten it, and while holding the neck straighter have someone else snug the truss rod, so the truss isn't actually doing the straightening. But just holds it to the straighter position.
I read that from Greg from Rocket Music on one of his threads.
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This technique is recommended by many, not just G & L. It makes a lot of mechanical sense and I have been doing any rod tightening this way for years. You can also get the same effect by placing the bass vertically on the ground with the but between your feet and pulling the headstock backwards.
 
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lomo said:
This technique is recommended by many, not just G & L. It makes a lot of mechanical sense and I have been doing any rod tightening this way for years. You can also get the same effect by placing the bass vertically on the ground with the but between your feet and pulling the headstock backwards.
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I'd never heard that before or seen it in a video, and never had any issues with truss rod adjustments but after that truss nut snapped off I'll go this route for sure. I've always just de-tensioned the strings if I'm tightening then very carefully turn the nut a little. Never over doing it of cranking it if its tight.
Live and learn!
 
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Ricky Rioli said:
If this technique is recommended by G&L as a way of setting the neck correctly despite the truss rod seeming to be maxed out, why don't the factory use it?
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It's not recommended when the rod is maxed out, but rather as the best way to routinely tighten a rod. When the rod is maxed there's no way to further increase relief other than at the bridge or with a neck shim. Sorry if my post was misplaced or misleading.
 
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lomo said:
It's not recommended when the rod is maxed out, but rather as the best way to routinely tighten a rod. When the rod is maxed there's no way to further increase relief other than at the bridge or with a neck shim. Sorry if my post was misplaced or misleading.
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I've watched lots of videos about bass setup through the years and I'd never heard of bending the neck like that then turning the truss, I read about it here on the Rocket Music thread. Specifically for G&L's which apparently have a bad track record for truss rod issues, the nut snapping off being one of the issues.
That being said it makes sense if the truss nut is prone to snap, as the nut and rod aren't doing the straightening, just moving under less tention to hold the neck in the shape that it's being bent.
I'll adjust my G&L's like that if and when they ever need adjusment going forward.
Better safe than sorry!
 
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It's amazing how many so-called guitar "techs" don't bother to adjust a truss rod the right way, not just DIY-ers who may not know any better. I watched a well known and respected tech do something I couldn't believe. A guy walked into the store with a spendy Ken Smith sixer that had a nasty forward bow. Tech puts the bass on the bench and starts cranking on the truss rod (rods?) without loosening the strings or helping the neck bend back. "Nope", he says, "that's as far as it'll go, you'll need a new neck". Jaw dropped.
 
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Iridescentone said:
It's amazing how many so-called guitar "techs" don't bother to adjust a truss rod the right way, not just DIY-ers who may not know any better. I watched a well known and respected tech do something I couldn't believe. A guy walked into the store with a spendy Ken Smith sixer that had a nasty forward bow. Tech puts the bass on the bench and starts cranking on the truss rod (rods?) without loosening the strings or helping the neck bend back. "Nope", he says, "that's as far as it'll go, you'll need a new neck". Jaw dropped.
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I've always loosened the strings to tighten a truss rod but never bent the neck to straighten it, and in setup videos by Fender, Lakland, Sadowsky, and Fodera to name a few they never show that either
 
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Is this the culprit?

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