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Rickenbacker 4003 Copy

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Hey folks,

I've been thinking about buying a 4003 Chinese copy from Aliexpress, I know the quality on these things can vary drastically but I was thinking of just stripping all the hardware and electronics for genuine rick parts. It would be a little bit of a project but all in all, it would be cheaper than an actual rick. If anyone has done this before or has any suggestions I'm all ears.
 
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The genuine Rick parts may not make the instrument better, so why not shop around for a good used Rick?
You see I have tried that and the used ricks are selling for no less 2,000 which is way more than I am willing to spend. It's possible that the genuine rick parts could help significantly as long as the foundations of the bass are solid i.e. the neck and truss rod does not have issues.
 
At the end of the day, your counterfeit won't sound like a Rickenbacker, and will only superficially resemble one. And you'll never get out of it what you put in if you sell it (if you've priced out the parts lately, you'll be paying as much for each pickup as the counterfeit). Much better to find a used Ric. They hold their value extremely well, and nothing plays or sounds like the genuine article.

Or see if you can find a '70s Japanese clone. They're quite close, though they're appreciating in value.
 
At the end of the day, your counterfeit won't sound like a Rickenbacker, and will only superficially resemble one. And you'll never get out of it what you put in if you sell it. Much better to find a used Ric. They hold their value extremely well, and nothing plays or sounds like a genuine article.
I think that's a good point but if you count the cost of buying the fake rick and the genuine rick parts it comes out to about 800 bucks or so which is way cheaper than even a used rick in fair condition.
 
I think that's a good point but if you count the cost of buying the fake rick and the genuine rick parts it comes out to about 800 bucks or so which is way cheaper than even a used rick in fair condition.
800 bucks ought to get you into spitting distance of a 1970s Ibanez or Univox copy, which will hold its value.
 
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Knock-off Ricks will 100% not sound anything at all like any legit Rick so IMO if that’s the sound / tone you want pinch your pennies for as long as it takes to afford an authentic lefty Rick.

Any money spent on a copy (no matter how little) is money NOT spent on the real deal!!!
 
I have a Greco copy of a Rickenbacker. With the original pickups it sounded nothing like my ‘72 4001. After installing a set of Ric pickups it now sounds very very very close to the ‘72. So close, in fact, that you’d have a tough time in a blind test between the two basses.

I readily admit, the Greco build quality is not the same as an authentic Rickenbacker, but it’s not far off. Compared to the inexpensive Chinese Ric copies, the “lawsuit” basses from the 70’s and 80’s are vastly better and can still be had for relatively low prices. Left hand examples are available if you search and are patient.

All of that being said, I would agree with the others who suggest that you save until you can afford a real Rickenbacker. I’m definitely NOT a cork-sniffing Rickenbacker fanatic, but it seems to me that even if you had to spend a year or so to save, it would pay off as you’d end up with a high quality instrument rather than a sub-par bass.
 
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I'm going to say something that will probably be frowned upon but I really don't care. I've played a Chinese Ricky and it was pretty cool. Knowing it's not going to feel like a real Ric because the Chinese tend to use cheap electronics and the necks can be chunky. Sometimes the neck and frets might need fine tuning as well. With that said I say jump on one and have fun. We don't need to sit there saying anything negative. It's not going to be a real Ric but it can still be made to be cool. Put in some good electronics and hardware if it needs it and have fun. You know being left handed means having to improvise and be creative so get a cool looking one and have fun making it something.
 
Hey folks,

I've been thinking about buying a 4003 Chinese copy from Aliexpress, I know the quality on these things can vary drastically but I was thinking of just stripping all the hardware and electronics for genuine rick parts. It would be a little bit of a project but all in all, it would be cheaper than an actual rick. If anyone has done this before or has any suggestions I'm all ears.

Man, I'm dabbling in this concept also. I'm looking at making some purchases VERY soon from similar sources for a similar line of thought. I'll let you know how I go, what I get etc?
 
I take no moral stance on buying a Ric knockoff, since Ric themselves are IP pirates, but a lot of people have gone down this rabbit hole without much to show for it. I have only played one Chickenbacker, and it was a POS with entirely un-dressed and unleveled frets made of some kind kind of alloy that was turning green. The fit and finish were ok, kind of a "three foot distance bass", any closer and you started seeing the flaws. Thats true of a lot of cheap Indonesian basses though. The tuners were cheap but serviceable, the bridge you see on all these basses is a weird design, but it works ok. It sounded nothing like a Ric, and was wired like a Les Paul. There are a number of different factories cranking these out, so quality can vary wildly. Some people have reported much better experience with them, so my sample of one may have been the bottom of the range. Some Aliexpress sellers will do custom one-offs or "husks" with no hardware, and most notably, lefties. Your chances of finding a genuine lefty Ric for anything you can afford are remote at best. I've literally never seen one in person, anywhere, ever. The "Lawsuit" Japanese basses are hard to find, since Ric has been pretty effective at policing them off Ebay and Reverb, but some of them were "an undetermined degree of less than terrible" ( no "praising counterfeits allowed on TB, which apparently only applies to Ric clones) Using all upgraded parts will get you in the ballpark, but any OEM Ric parts are not cheap, so your big savings up front can evaporate pretty quick. Retrovibe UK makes some fairly convincing and well reviewed pickups and other parts for a lot less. If you can find an Aliexpress seller you trust (a feat in itself), you might do ok, but its a crapshoot. Its a short step from vendors already engaged in blatant IP theft to ripping you off, and its still a largely unregulated and unenforced Wild West of faceless middle men over there, so be careful if you try this. Theres a whole Youtube channel called China Guitar Sceptic devoted to this particular minefield if you want some background. The Top Guitars is considered one of the more reliable vendors, but who knows for sure, ive never bought anything through them. As others have said, in the end you'll still have what amounts to a kit bass with no resale value, so factor that into your decision.
 
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As i understand it, its legal for you to buy (1) counterfeit guitar for personal use, but illegal to sell one, go figure. Nobody legit imports them wholesale. US customs has their hands full trying to find drugs, weapons, and trafficked human beings in the sea of containers piling up in LA, so I imagine Chickenbackers are kinda....low on the priority list. Again, the prohibition against resale makes it a one time purchase, you own it for good or ill.
 
Seems shady is it legal to purchase counterfeit instruments?
It must be, since there are 600 bajillion builders making these counterfeit guitars and basses. They are all, in some way, unique enough to not infringe, I guess. This is why I'm intrigued in them as skeletons to learn on.
It's against the law to sell fakes. OP said he wants a copy, which isn't the same as a fake. Copies have the maker's name on them, but fake Ric is named as a Ric.
 
As i understand it, its legal for you to buy (1) counterfeit guitar for personal use, but illegal to sell one, go figure. Nobody legit imports them wholesale. US customs has their hands full trying to find drugs, weapons, and trafficked human beings in the sea of containers piling up in LA, so I imagine Chickenbackers are kinda....low on the priority list. Again, the prohibition against resale makes it a one time purchase, you own it for good or ill.
Indeed that's shady...
 
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