thanks for the advice everyone....you have to undersatnd ...with the car analogy....if you see a 745 BMW go down the road ...sometimes you fall in love with it before you ever even drive it....theres just somethiong about it ya know....im not saying elrick and ritter are my only options but from what ive seen and heard they are the ones that intrigue me and have me wanting more info on them....i just cant wait to try them out in person and let you guys know what i think