Rock n Roll lost something after 1959

[ElectroVibe]

No, it’s fine. Music changes. You prefer that time period, that doesn’t mean there is something fundamentally wrong with the era afterwards.

Nothing at all wrong with music afterwards.

 

[ElectroVibe]

I think you sound like Bowzer from Sha Na Na, who once told me that the Beatles were the end of rock and roll as far as he was concerned. His opinion and he’s welcome to it since there’s a lot to love about 50s rock.

No offense to Sha Na Na fans, but I never understood that.

 

[ElectroVibe]

how to say, "I'm old and set in my ways", without saying "I'm old and set in my ways".

If it means more mature music appreciation then I'm all in. There is wisdom in age. Van Morrison had a lot of wisdom in his 20s and just grew from there.

 

[ElectroVibe]

If you come of age, at a certain age, in late puberty to mid-adolescence, you are likely to favor the music that turned you on then for the rest of your life.

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Everything before 1975 was before my time.

 

[LBS-bass]

Fifties rock was very formulaic in a mostly 1-4-5 sort of way. Doesn’t hold my interest for too long but some brilliant things grew out of there.

 

[butterfingers1]

If you come of age, at a certain age, in late puberty to mid-adolescence, you are likely to favor the music that turned you on then for the rest of your life.

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This was true from the 1950s to maybe 1980s. I was a teenager in the late 1970s and my music playing started going backward to the 1950s.

My two sons began playing (drums and guitar) in 2004. The drummer was impressed with current rap/hiphop stuff, the guitarist with before-his-time 1990 GunsnRoses. As with all their teenage musician friends they all quickly became immersed in 1970s hard rock, that’s where the guitar and drumming was and remains to this day.

Young people now who learn piano and violin gravitate to Enlightenment music of Bach and Beethoven.

Painting reached an apogee during the Renaissance. Sculpture in Ancient Greece and Rome.

 

[TyBo]

Fifties rock was very formulaic in a mostly 1-4-5 sort of way. Doesn’t hold my interest for too long but some brilliant things grew out of there.

Different strokes. Elvis, Chuck Berry. Little Richard, Buddy Holly, The Coasters, Fats Domino, and so many others all hold my interest very well, personally. Rock and roll baby!

 

[LBS-bass]

Different strokes. Elvis, Chuck Berry. Little Richard, Buddy Holly, The Coasters, Fats Domino, and so many others all hold my interest very well, personally. Rock and roll baby!

Oh, yeah, a lot of people really do love that old stuff. Much of it was good, but unfortunately composition relied so much on standard formulas that creativity and personality had to seep in through the cracks and around the edges. My opinion, only.

It wasn't until later that some started experimenting with song forms outside the established formulas, and that to me is what ushered in a golden age of great music.

 

[TyBo]

This was true from the 1950s to maybe 1980s. I was a teenager in the late 1970s and my music playing started going backward to the 1950s.

My two sons began playing (drums and guitar) in 2004. The drummer was impressed with current rap/hiphop stuff, the guitarist with before-his-time 1990 GunsnRoses. As with all their teenage musician friends they all quickly became immersed in 1970s hard rock, that’s where the guitar and drumming was and remains to this day.

Young people now who learn piano and violin gravitate to Enlightenment music of Bach and Beethoven.

Painting reached an apogee during the Renaissance. Sculpture in Ancient Greece and Rome.

Wait ... 70's rock was ... the Enlightenment ?

 

[LBS-bass]

Wait ... 70's rock was ... the Enlightenment ?

You don't know who Bach and Beethoven were?

 

[TyBo]

You don't know who Bach and Beethoven were?

Sorry, don't really understand your point. Rock on

 

[butterfingers1]

Hey, let’s get back to what I was saying.

 

[TyBo]

Oh, yeah, a lot of people really do love that old stuff. Much of it was good, but unfortunately relied so much on standard formulas that creativity and personality had to seep in through the cracks and around the edges. My opinion, only.

It wasn't until later that some started experimenting with song forms outside the established formulas, and that to me is what ushered in a golden age of great music.

What I like hearing most in music is great melody, harmony and rhythm (like, makes my feet want to move). 50's music had that in spades. My fave music comes from then, and back through the 40's and 30's ... love lots of stuff from all the ensuing decades as well. There are many flowers in the garden ...

 

[TyBo]

Hey, let’s get back to what I was saying.

Boil it down, maybe?

 

[LBS-bass]

Sorry, don't really understand your point. Rock on

It’s mutual!

 

[LBS-bass]

Hey, let’s get back to what I was saying.

I thought you were saying that there's a difference in how generations view things. Your sons like 70's music from classic rock bands. But younger people than your sons now take inspiration from classical composers (the enlightenment era).

That seems much like what some folks were doing in the 70's by rolling classical influences into rock. What's old is new again.

 

[LBS-bass]

My fave music comes from then, and back through the 40's and 30's ... love lots of stuff from all the ensuing decades as well. There are many flowers in the garden ...

A lot of great standards were written in the 30's and 40's.

 

[butterfingers1]

I meant people don’t always necessarily bond with music of their teens. This may have been true with pop rock of the first post-war decades, during a unique period of pop musical culture effervescence.

Since the 1980s I think people learning guitar tend to look to the past.

My teenage sons and their guitar/drum playing friends and peers in 2004 were going back to the 1970s to find worthwhile things to play.

Teenagers learning violin have for a long time been going back to 18th century compositions.

That’s all, just my opinion, I don’t want to get anyone upset . Although that’s ok too .

 

[58kites]

When I was younger I definitely loved the Beatles, Rolling Stones, Kinks, The Who, Led Zeppelin, etc. All the so-called classic rock.

But lately I've been rediscovering Elvis Presley and I love how he absorbed gospel and R&B, and combined it with his own rockabilly style.

I think there was a lot of good POP music in the 60s and after, but as far as Rock, it's just been missing something.

What do you think?

I think Elvis Presley was/is totally over-rated, same with Johnny Cash, Willie Nelson and lots of others from the 50's/60's/70's and onward.
As far as Rock, ...some rock music has been great from the day it started until some time in the future when it could possibly be dead and gone.
There's also no shortage of horrible rock music from every decade.
Pop music has also had plenty of great recordings and lots of junk from the beginning until present time.
Music production is currently doing it's best to choke the life out of all popular music but...
I think there will always be musicians making great music, in most every genre.

 

[TyBo]

I meant people don’t always necessarily bond with music of their teens. This may have been true with pop rock of the first post-war decades, during a unique period of pop musical culture effervescence.

Since the 1980s I think people learning guitar tend to look to the past.

My teenage sons and their guitar/drum playing friends and peers in 2004 were going back to the 1970s to find worthwhile things to play.

Teenagers learning violin have for a long time been going back to 18th century compositions.

That’s all, just my opinion, I don’t want to get anyone upset . Although that’s ok too .

I agree with that. I think some other young folks may also pick decades besides the 70's for learning guitar or drums, but I can see you're not restricting your point to that example. Young YouTubers like Josh Turner or The Mona Lisa Twins take a lot of inspiration from the 60's for their playing , for example. Inspiration is where one finds it, which often lies in the past. Cats in the 60's, 70's, and 80's were learning from the past themselves, after all.