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Rondo Music basses

1 good bass + 1 good bass teacher = 1 GREAT bass player!

OP, invest in yourself--not in more lumber...

My .02.

My dad buys lessons, I buy gear.

I get lessons from a local Jazz professional. He makes a living with his gigs. hehe.

Great guy. Three lessons and I could make any chord major/minor. Five different scale types, and all my mods.

One lesson a week, 30 minutes. $15.

Great guy.


So I buy gear. Explained? :D I'm taking lessons again after I get a 6. I took off to learn my own stuff and improve my technique.
 
I might as well chime in with my opinion as well! Please note I own 5 string basses in fretted and fretless, I own 6 string basses in fretted and fretless and I own a real fender jazz V.

My feelings would be to KEEP the Am. Standard, UNLESS you find another Fender that both sounds better to you and feels better to play. I'm not going to tell you to keep that bass simply because it says Fender on it and it's MIA. Fender makes dogs too. So IF and ONLY if you find something better and I mean FIND it, like play it and have it in your own hands until you are sure it's better, then sell and trade. It makes no matter what model the new Fender is, sometimes even Squirers are winners. BUT you have to know that for sure before you buy. I can't tell you the hassle I went through buying by MIM Jazz V. I checked out gobs of stores and scores of basses. I was about to plunk down a huge chunk of change for a MIA version when my BETTER MIM one turned up one day at GC for a song. That's my story.

Your next bass should be a fretted 6 string. If you've been playing a 4 you need to get the hang of 5's and 6's. You can learn that faster and better on a 6 first. Learn the patterns across the neck. Dig the extended range. In many types of music the extended high end isn't needed at all. But my view is it's always better to have it and not play it than to need it and not have it! Only later when you get some spare cash you can back off to a 5 stringer to cut a bit of the weight and neck width when the upper range is not necessary. (in my opinion the lower range is always necessary! ...OK, unless you are into old school sounds)

And next you should get a fretless 6er to get the hang of those. You should note that when I got my fretless 6er (no lines on neck) it was much more bass than I could easily handle. It took me quite some time until I started to feel that I was dominating the bass rather than the bass dominating me!

And here's the kick in the butt! Go look at the 6 stringers at Rondo. Cripes $500 can get you BOTH! Lots of combinations to buy. Douglas ones look great. I like an ash body for a 6er because they are brighter in tone, but taste is your department. If you really feel lucky (well do ya, punk?) $500 gets a killer six string fretless to die for, (Brice Z6 Nat Spalted) If you can play it, it will play anything you can play on a fretted 6. Jazz band front instrument par excellence!

Once you've got this far a 5 is a piece of cake. Any old SX with a bit of setup and shielding will do. Forego a few pizzas to get the cash to buy one later.

And this is my two cents.

Ive played a Squier VM Jazz. Liked it way better. Better feel, better looks, better neck! Definitely getting the VM and selling the MIA
 
Trust me on this: if you sell that 99 MIA Jazz, you WILL regret it. Keep it and save for a Rondo sixer or a used SR506. And if you're getting a sixer, don't bother with a fiver. I understand wanting the extended range for the kind of music you play, but the sixer will cover anything you want to do with the fiver. Don't make the process any more complicated than it has to be...
 
Why would you say it's mediocre? Get it set up and put some good strings on, and if you can play well, it's fine!



Example right there. Yeah, I know he's good, but it forces me to work on my technique. It's just gotten to where I don't really love my Jazz so much. Although I may need it, considering im going to do the school Jazz band, and the bassist is the frontman.

I need the low action with the insane amount of tapping I do every day. The Jazz sounds like crap with the low action.

Of course, my strings are worn to the core in multiple frets, so they're like palm muting. This gives a horrible dead sound.

Also, on top of me desperately needing a 6er, i may very well possibly land a great band that's going to tour the triangle area. They need a low B. haha.
It has former members of Nephilym, Death to Dreams, and 13th Knot.



I saw those guys live. I had an Ibanez 706 and while the neck was nice, I never used the high c string. Arif uses 5 string Spector basses in Protest the Hero. I sold my 706 to get a Warwick 5 string and could not be happier. If you're going to need the jazz for the school band, don't sell it. Just save a little more and really think about your needs in terms of versatility. Will you ever really use the high c?
 
DING DING Blender!

See, I personally like the Squier VM much better anyways. So it's a win.

ON top of, I got it used for less than I can probably sell it for on craigslist. I got a freakin STEAL! bought it from the store (not CL!) for 50% ($700)

I could easily sell for 800.