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Roscoe Club

#11,521
SteveC said:
Nice. I was playing my G&L JB-2 Tribute last night for a while. It was fun/fine...until Uptown Funk came up in the playlist. Really need the B string for that tune. That's why I stick to my 5 for gigs.
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Agreed- once you get used to that low B... i have a '74 Fender Jazz (birth year bass) and while it is a blast to play and sounds great, I do feel like I'm missing something with it. I remember a BP article long ago when I think Nathan East said playing a 4 felt like he was missing a finger- I'm not that drastic (or talented), but I understand.
 
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MattLplaysBass said:
Agreed- once you get used to that low B... i have a '74 Fender Jazz (birth year bass) and while it is a blast to play and sounds great, I do feel like I'm missing something with it. I remember a BP article long ago when I think Nathan East said playing a 4 felt like he was missing a finger- I'm not that drastic (or talented), but I understand.
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By the same token, I'm sure I could "get used" to not having a B string, too.
Honestly, some things do seem to feel "easier/better" on a 4 string (Good Love Is on the Way for example - that cool lick in the chorus) for some reason. Maybe I just perceive it that way? Maybe I'm just looking for justification. When I played it on the 4 string last night it sure seemed to flow a little better.

If I could find a good, inexpensive, quick way to swap basses and not get my IEM's and stuff all tangled up mid-gig and have levels balanced and all that, I might be more inclined to swap the "appropriate" bass for the song. That all sounds expensive to me though.
 
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Bassworship1 said:
There is no way I would own or go back to a 4 string as the 5 is just that important to me. I have gotten rid of some really nice basses because they had a average or subpar B string. It's that important to me.
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I think we are in a similar place. I do make use of my B string - for more than low notes. I have only played a couple basses where the B string "goes with" the other strings tone wise. The Roscoe B string is amazing. 5th fret sounds like the open E. Theres's no (perceivable) change in timbre between those notes. It's amazing. I've had a few that were close tone wise, but none of them had a neck that felt like my Roscoe.

l'll never give this bass up, seriously. I've been happy with it for 6 years. I may add something to my tool box, but my Century 5 will never leave. I sometimes think another Roscoe 5 would be nice, but then I kind of have that covered.
 
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Bassworship1 said:
There is no way I would own or go back to a 4 string as the 5 is just that important to me. I have gotten rid of some really nice basses because they had a average or subpar B string. It's that important to me.
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So Shane, is having a low B important to you? :D

Your music minister told me that you never play your G string o_O

Rumor is that you actually lost your G string!:facepalm:

:jawdrop::jawdrop::jawdrop:
 
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i hope to get back to playing regularly soon. For most contemporary worship, the bass accompaniment makes regular use of the B string, so a standard 4 string isn't an option. I've played with the idea of a 4 strung B-E-A-D for a while, but that would require a custom build to maintain the 35" scale.
 
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They would make a nice pair...
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A tease for your Friday...
Have a great weekend everyone. I’m heading to the big city (Minneapolis) for the weekend to visit a college friend recovering from some fairly severe ankle and skin grafting surgery. Also going to hit a music shop or two and see what there is to see for acoustic guitars and synths. Need another bass stand and hope to try a new YYZ pedal if I can get lucky.
 
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He's the glue that brings us all together- to encourage him to buy that Roscoe P!

HOPEFULLY I will be getting my SKB back this week, and can get back to some Roscoe playing. One good thing about having multiple basses is I always have something to play, but you always miss the ones that are in the shop :laugh:
 
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JOME77 said:
Man! Steve goes out of town and the Roscoe thread shuts down ........
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Well, Roscoe was represented at the GTG and people still oh and ah over it. :)

Unfortunately, I played it through a REALLY nice Bergantino rig - that's for sale. B|Amp, HG310/HDN112 Stack. Holy crap. Each cab on it's own sounded great, but together, it was ridiculous. Punch from the 10's and the big bottom from the 12...just amazing. I was tempted. I wish I had more gigs where I used an amp. So much of what I do is DI/IEM. It's hard to justify a purchase like this. Yet, it showed that while my little Genzler combo is a KILLER combo, it has limits and doesn't deliver that deep punch. It sounds good and is loud enough for my needs but...

It's the endless debate - small and portable one trip load in vs. a full sounding rig that takes a couple trips.

And even used, the complete rig id very pricy. I could get a bass and go wireless for the same expense.
Fortunately I don't NEED another bass, and I don't need a rig like this.

An additional BA10-2 ($600) to make a "mini stack" would be a more practical solution.
 
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SteveC said:
Well, Roscoe was represented at the GTG and people still oh and ah over it. :)

Unfortunately, I played it through a REALLY nice Bergantino rig - that's for sale. B|Amp, HG310/HDN112 Stack. Holy crap. Each cab on it's own sounded great, but together, it was ridiculous. Punch from the 10's and the big bottom from the 12...just amazing. I was tempted.

It's the endless debate - small and portable one trip load in vs. a full sounding rig that takes a couple trips.
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The Bergantino gear is great, but so is Genzler. Portability?, just get a Rock n Roller cart and you are back to one trip. I have to haul the subs for the mains along with my bass gear, so I have never had a one trip load in.

Mark
 
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mwbonsall said:
The Bergantino gear is great, but so is Genzler. Portability?, just get a Rock n Roller cart and you are back to one trip. I have to haul the subs for the mains along with my bass gear, so I have never had a one trip load in.

Mark
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Both great guys who support their gear and both have great stuff. Honestly, I'm probably more lazy than trying to be portable. My only thing with Genzler is it's so horizontally deigned. Low profile to the ground. I like when my cab is a little taller with a smaller footprint, closer to my ears.

I have been in a "simplify and reduce" mode so getting a menu driven big rig is contrary to that. Although, it was pretty easy to edit and your basic 4 eq bands are available all the time. And even though we have great smaller options, you just can't beat that punch you in the gut feel of a nice rig.

A rig purchase like this would limit my future purchases for a while. Not a big deal, but I was thinking that a synth upgrade and wireless would be my next purchases.
I played a few 4 strings (nice P's) this weekend and while super nice, I am just so entrenched in the 5 string world, I don't know that I'd play a 4 very much. Honestly, the nicest bass I played (after mine) was a Lakland Joe Osborn passive 5 jazz. That was a KILLER sounding bass and the neck felt almost as nice as my Roscoe...almost. Still a little "master/love one bass" kind of mentality for me.

This should give you all something to work with. As much as I think I might like that Roscoe P bass, I just don't know that it's the right thing for me. Need to stop thinking about being like everyone else and just do my thing.
I just loose sight of that sometimes when I get by some gear or watch people play live - like Pino.
 
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SteveC said:
Both great guys who support their gear and both have great stuff. Honestly, I'm probably more lazy than trying to be portable. My only thing with Genzler is it's so horizontally deigned. Low profile to the ground. I like when my cab is a little taller with a smaller footprint, closer to my ears.

I have been in a "simplify and reduce" mode so getting a menu driven big rig is contrary to that. Although, it was pretty easy to edit and your basic 4 eq bands are available all the time. And even though we have great smaller options, you just can't beat that punch you in the gut feel of a nice rig.

A rig purchase like this would limit my future purchases for a while. Not a big deal, but I was thinking that a synth upgrade and wireless would be my next purchases.
I played a few 4 strings (nice P's) this weekend and while super nice, I am just so entrenched in the 5 string world, I don't know that I'd play a 4 very much. Honestly, the nicest bass I played (after mine) was a Lakland Joe Osborn passive 5 jazz. That was a KILLER sounding bass and the neck felt almost as nice as my Roscoe...almost. Still a little "master/love one bass" kind of mentality for me.

This should give you all something to work with. As much as I think I might like that Roscoe P bass, I just don't know that it's the right thing for me. Need to stop thinking about being like everyone else and just do my thing.
I just loose sight of that sometimes when I get by some gear or watch people play live - like Pino.
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The Bergantino stuff IS very nice, and the B-amp is super user friendly, don't let the menu fool you. You CAN tweak just about everything, or you can set it and forget it. It really does benefit from using Bergantino cabs though, with the speaker profiles and such. And it goes down to 2 ohms.

Did you see the new BackBeat rumble pack? Maybe that would help you- got an excellent review in the new Bass Magazine...

BackBeat - Play Bass, Feel Bass
 
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SteveC said:
It's the endless debate - small and portable one trip load in vs. a full sounding rig that takes a couple trips.
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I’ve reached an age where portability has a far higher priority than it used to. My Markbass 112 combo works great for most gigs, and if I need more volume I have an additional 112 extension cab. Does it have the low end oomph that my old Ashdown head and custom 215 did? Nowhere near, but that seems less of an issue for me now than it did in days of old.
 
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oren said:
I’ve reached an age where portability has a far higher priority than it used to. My Markbass 112 combo works great for most gigs, and if I need more volume I have an additional 112 extension cab. Does it have the low end oomph that my old Ashdown head and custom 215 did? Nowhere near, but that seems less of an issue for me now than it did in days of old.
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Yeah, I’m getting older as well. Don’t really need the loud but I sure miss the full a little after yesterday. A second BA10-2 can would get me more vertical, double my surface area and double my watts. Leave me a little more head room.

I suppose for (mostly) jazz gigs I don’t really need the low end oomph, but it’s nice.
 
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MattLplaysBass said:
The Bergantino stuff IS very nice, and the B-amp is super user friendly, don't let the menu fool you. You CAN tweak just about everything, or you can set it and forget it. It really does benefit from using Bergantino cabs though, with the speaker profiles and such. And it goes down to 2 ohms.

Did you see the new BackBeat rumble pack? Maybe that would help you- got an excellent review in the new Bass Magazine...

BackBeat - Play Bass, Feel Bass
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I have to say that BackBeat - Play Bass, Feel Bass device seems pretty awesome. That and a pair of in-ears might be all that's needed.
 

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