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Roscoe Club

Actually, she said it was "sick" when I showed it to her as we've talked about shell pink basses before as a breast cancer awareness thing and because they just look cool. But I only think they look cool as a jazz body.

lol

I love it! A “sick” bass.
Actually, she said it was "sick" when I showed it to her as we've talked about shell pink basses before as a breast cancer awareness thing and because they just look cool. But I only think they look cool as a jazz body.

Well”sick” can be really good (man that bass looks sick!”) or bad (Man that bass looks like it’s sick!”). Or it could be depressing (man that bass makes me think of someone being sick”)
Or maybe that pink makes her think of having a stomachache (Pepto Bismol).
I guess I’m not sure what she means when she says that bass was sick.
 
I'm rather partial to Ken Smith's 2+3 headstock, which I think is very cool in an XYZ sort of way. Ken contended that the longer distance of the string post to the bridge saddle in this configuration benefited the feel and tone of the "B" string.

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I'm rather partial to Ken Smith's 2+3 headstock, which I think is very cool in an XYZ sort of way. Ken contended that the longer distance of the string post to the bridge saddle in this configuration benefited the feel and tone of the "B" string.

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Am I missing something Fritz?
How would the 2/3 tuner configuration benefit the feel and tone of the "B" string (since it's still the first key on the head stock closest to the nut)?
Beautiful bass though!
 
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Just passing on some major Ken Smith marketing mojo, Joe. However, the Smith bass that I played with that configuration was one of the most smokin' XYZs I've ever experienced.

If you want the nuts and bolts technical analysis (gobbledegook) from the master himself, here it is. Good luck reading his clarification of "2+3 vs 3+2" without at least smiling : )
When you make the string longer, isn't gravity affecting the "flop" of the string? Why is a shorter stick stiffer than a longer stick, but with strings you guys think it's the opposite? Why has every shorter string (scale) length double bass (upright) felt tighter to me than longer ones in my 40 years of playing? Why do Violin-Bass Luthiers adjust the tension of the strings by moving the tail piece towards the bridge (looser) or away (tighter) from it. Answer these simple questions and then ask, "Why are some Basses are better than others?" The Electric Bass commercially is about 50 years old. The Violin Family instruments are about 500 years old. Physics are as old as time. No, actually older. When you apply a formula, be sure all the ingredients are included or the soup won't taste right !!
 
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Just passing on some major Ken Smith marketing mojo, Joe. However, the Smith bass that I played with that configuration was one of the most smokin' XYZs I've ever experienced.

If you want the nuts and bolts technical analysis (gobbledegook) from the master himself, here it is. Good luck reading his clarification of "2+3 vs 3+2" without at least smiling : )

I learned a long time ago .... no arguing with Ken is allowed. He lives on a one-way street!:D
 
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Am I missing something Fritz?
How would the 2/3 tuner configuration benefit the feel and tone of the "B" string (since it's still the first key on the head stock closest to the nut)?
Beautiful bass though!
i think the concept is the b string tuner is farther from the nut on the 2+3, so it has a longer overall length from the bridge to the tuner (although I've also read that anything beyond the nut doesn't matter, and the same with anything before the bridge saddle (thru body vs top load), so ymmv). My FYZ :thumbsup: bass has this headstock, and while the B is excellent, the whole bass is world class so I don’t know if it’s just the one feature that does it

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Fodera has their "extended b" headstock, which would confuse the heck out of me for tuning, and I've also heard has questionable benefits.
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i think the concept is the b string tuner is farther from the nut on the 2+3, so it has a longer overall length from the bridge to the tuner (although I've also read that anything beyond the nut doesn't matter, and the same with anything before the bridge saddle (thru body vs top load), so ymmv).
i think the concept is the b string tuner is farther from the nut on the 2+3, so it has a longer overall length from the bridge to the tuner (although I've also read that anything beyond the nut doesn't matter, and the same with anything before the bridge saddle (thru body vs top load), so ymmv). My FYZ :thumbsup: bass has this headstock, and while the B is excellent, the whole bass is world class so I don’t know if it’s just the one feature that does it

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Fodera has their "extended b" headstock, which would confuse the heck out of me for tuning, and I've also heard has questionable benefits.
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I’m thinking in those cases the “B” is more than just a string.:D (It’s also B**L).

just kidding. Maybe extending the string extra distance beyond the nut and or bridge does help but I’ll just say that I’ve heard great “B” strings on many 34” scale basses that didn’t do either. IMO certainly extended scale helps but beyond that it’s got more to do with overall neck construction. Case in point, Keith Ladds 30” scale Roscoe has a great sounding “B” string. Neck construction is paramount.
 
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Im sorry but that Just looks terrible for a bass brand that cost as much as they do.

Fodera extended B string option that’s why it’s strung that way

I'm the last one to care about or have specific feelings about headstock shape, tuner config, etc., so when I say something is noticeably ugly and wrong...ew, Fodera. I'm sure it sounds great, but ew.

@Fred312b, as soon as restrictions are up, I'm swinging by to try your F bass, because I've always wanted to try one. I'll bring lots of Roscoes for you to try!
 
I'm the last one to care about or have specific feelings about headstock shape, tuner config, etc., so when I say something is noticeably ugly and wrong...ew, Fodera. I'm sure it sounds great, but ew.

@Fred312b, as soon as restrictions are up, I'm swinging by to try your F bass, because I've always wanted to try one. I'll bring lots of Roscoes for you to try!
I don’t know- my instruments aren’t really used to being played by anyone with talent ;) Not to derail, but it is a heckuva nice bass, really does the ‘70s jazz thing well, but is quite versatile too. which is good, as I ordered it new, somewhat impulsively (after having lusted after one for years).

Maybe I’ll have my Roscoe back by then too.
 
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