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Roscoe SoundClips 3 (from Roscoe Forum)

#381
Thanks Greg.

You've definitely got the right picture too. At one point we were trying to play Corn Toss and they were zig-zagging between the boards and often running onto the boards and spinning around (like it was a stage).
I'm still not sure how we missed hitting them with one of the bags!:)
 
#382
Here's a Bass Orchestra version of Skynards's classic "Sweet Home Alabama". It's always been one of my favorite tunes. I went more in the direction of an "unplugged" version.
I posted it for a few hours last night but pulled it after listening this morning so I could do a slightly different arrangement.

This one features my mahogany Roscoe SKB-3006 signature on all parts except the main bass part which is my mahogany LG-3005. I recorded it using Reason 6.5.

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#384
RocketMusic said:
I love it, Joe! I also love the separation you get between all the bass tracks. You can hear every one clear as a bell!
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Thanks Greg. I've been trying to do a bit more experimenting with panning based on conversations with you. The last tune that you did really showcased how effective proper panning could be.

I tried running through my Thundefunk DI but I got a bad high pitched whine when doing it. It didn't seem to record but it was very distracting when recording. JohnnyR seemed to think that installing an inexpensive atenuator in line (line out) would help. Have you experienced anything similar?

I'm not sure if it's related to the DI in my Thunderfunk or my inexpensive audio interface. I'm really considering stepping up and ordering a Reddi DI but I want to make sure I don't experience the same high pitched whine before I commit. It's a lot of money for a DI but I've got to do something to improve my bass tones.
 
#386
JOME77 said:
I'm not sure if it's related to the DI in my Thunderfunk or my inexpensive audio interface. I'm really considering stepping up and ordering a Reddi DI but I want to make sure I don't experience the same high pitched whine before I commit. It's a lot of money for a DI but I've got to do something to improve my bass tones.
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Just my opinion, but I'd spend the money on a fairly good interface before a REDDI. The signal chain is only as good as the weakest link, and the DI in your Thunderfunk (or the pre built into most decent interfaces) is going to be good enough. Once you've got a pretty nice interface you can think about something like the REDDI to improve things a bit more.
 
#388
Joe, have you used the amp's DI in other situations? My first guess is the issue lies there, but if you have a means of testing it that might offer some peace of mind.

If you want to dig into a 'dedicated' DI, I'd certainly recommend a Radial JDI. It's a terrific box, doesn't offer much (to my ears) in the way of coloring the tone, and it's pretty inexpensive. Mine stays in my bag for both session and live work....although it's certainly rarely used for the latter. (But when you get in that situation, where the engineer insists on getting the signal before it goes to the amp, it's awfully nice to have a wee bit of control.)

I still have the REDDI on my wish list, although I can't say I have any complaints with my old GrooveTubes DITTO. Birds of a feather, from the feedback I've gotten.... an incredibly HOT signal that can be difficult to control, especially if there are significant dynamics in your playing. But...the fat warm gooey tube goodness really is something to behold.
 
#390
The USB interfaces that are available on the market change as frequently as I flush toilets. :) I currently use an M-Audio Fast Track Ultra 8R (an 8-channel USB interface) that I bought 2-3 years ago, but it's no longer in production.

I used the Lexicon Alpha for a little while before that. That's in the sub-$200 range, where I think a lot of the devices are probably pretty similar. They do the job, but not particularly well and certainly without many features.

I usually head to Sweetwater's site whenever I'm looking for something fleeting like interface hardware. The technology just keeps getting better every few months, so the products available constantly change...

http://www.sweetwater.com/c695--USB_Audio_Interfaces

This is definitely a case where you don't want to buy the cheapest thing, but you also don't need to buy the most expensive thing. You can spend $100, you can spend $3000... but $300-500 probably gets you something very nice (and MUCH nicer than the $100).
 
#392
I was kind of looking at the Apogee One for iPad and Mac. I like Garage Band on iPad - lots of cool features - and it would work on my iPad and MacBook Pro. Not too expensive but pretty versatile - built in mic, 1/4" and XLR input, 2 channels at once if I ever needed/wanted that and easy output to headphones or speakers.

Thoughts?
 
#394
The Apogee stuff is, IMO, terrific. One of the singers I work with uses their MiC and iPad for voice-over auditions. Here are a couple of things I did with the Jam and Garage Band on my iPad:

Me attempting to program built-in drums, but otherwise all Roscoe - fretted for chords & bass line, fretless for melody/solo.
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Drum loop, canned organ voicings, Roscoe fretless. (Weaksauce warning.)
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It's really all about defining expectations. You're working at home, trying to memorialize ideas, and perhaps measure and track your performance progress. To that end, it's hard to go wrong with any of these products in the < $200 range. FWIW....I've done pre-pro/demo work for a few album projects, and those gigs pretty much covered the cost of my entire setup (Presonus AudioBox USB & Studio One software, with a set of M-Audio powered monitors). To that end, I find the Garage Band thing a bit too tedious, but if you're just out to learn and have fun, spending the few $ on the iPad app and $100 on the Apogee Jam will net you great results.

This one has been shared before as well, but here's something I put together in Studio One, using my GrooveTubes DITTO into the AudioBox USB interface. Canned drums, all else is fretted Roscoe sixer.

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Regarding the back end, I'm very surprised there hasn't been more USB 3.0 hardware on the market. That, and of course Thunderbolt, has pretty much put Firewire to bed.
 
#395
Thanks for posting those clips. I have to say I hear a noticeable difference between the Apogee/Garage Band recording and the GrooveTubes/AudioBox recording. The tube DI is probably a justifiable expense.
 
#396
The thing I like about Garage Band is the "smart" instruments. I can add piano chords very easily - including things like sus chords, drum patterns, etc. without having to do too much of my own "playing" as it were.
 
#397
I'm glad you can hear the difference there, Steve. It's subtle, but it's definitely there. That third clip of Jerry's sounds so much smoother and girthier (is that a word? It is now.). It's not like there's a ton of extra bass in the tone making it huge and fat, there's just more warm, gooey ooomph underpinning all of the notes... to me, it just sounds more like what you'd hear through an amp rig.
 
#398
And if you really cranked these three recordings through a big system (which I can't do at the moment), I suspect you would be able to feel the bass in the third clip. With the previous two clips, I think you'd hear it more than you'd feel it. But that's just a guess...
 

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