Rumble Studio 40 and Reaper...Help!

[SoulReflection]

After reading through three pages here and spending hours on You Tube Tutorials I thought I would post here.

I was able to get the Studio 40 connected to Reaper with the Fender ASIO driver (thanks to @Diver over in the Rumble Club). This is on a laptop PC running Win 10.

I am still struggling with setting up Reaper. All I want to do is play bass through the Studio 40 along with backing tracks and record them. Reaper appears to be a very complex but capable program. Perhaps my problem is not understanding the terminology in DAW's along with Reaper's multitude of options.

I would like to record my own backing tracks from CD's I have, using EQ/High Pass filters to eliminate the existing bass lines on the CD's. It would also be great if I could match the pitch from the CD's to the tuning on the bass. I thought I could record my CD's in a track in Reaper, with filters for EQ and/or High Pass. Then, play bass through the Studio 40 along with the track in Reaper, and record the song.

My many attempts at this have resulted in no sound or, sound for the backing track only in the right channel and no bass through it's channel. I don't know if I need a separate audio interface?

I obviously need some help on this and, if anyone can point me in the right direction, I would be very thankful. Heck, with all the hours I have spent on this, I would be willing to pay for support !

 

[deff]

After reading through three pages here and spending hours on You Tube Tutorials I thought I would post here.

I was able to get the Studio 40 connected to Reaper with the Fender ASIO driver (thanks to @Diver over in the Rumble Club). This is on a laptop PC running Win 10.

I am still struggling with setting up Reaper. All I want to do is play bass through the Studio 40 along with backing tracks and record them. Reaper appears to be a very complex but capable program. Perhaps my problem is not understanding the terminology in DAW's along with Reaper's multitude of options.

I would like to record my own backing tracks from CD's I have, using EQ/High Pass filters to eliminate the existing bass lines on the CD's. It would also be great if I could match the pitch from the CD's to the tuning on the bass. I thought I could record my CD's in a track in Reaper, with filters for EQ and/or High Pass. Then, play bass through the Studio 40 along with the track in Reaper, and record the song.

My many attempts at this have resulted in no sound or, sound for the backing track only in the right channel and no bass through it's channel. I don't know if I need a separate audio interface?

I obviously need some help on this and, if anyone can point me in the right direction, I would be very thankful. Heck, with all the hours I have spent on this, I would be willing to pay for support !

So you've set the ASIO. When you set a track you need to activate it as mono or stereo and pan it. You also need to arm the track and you have no ability AFAIK because you've got no headphone set up for Audio interface to hear what you are doing. I suppose you can hear the amp, but that would be it right? I think for the most part people are better off, recording dry and then adding stuff in. I am new to Reaper as well. Good luck with your recording.

 

[SoulReflection]

So you've set the ASIO. When you set a track you need to activate it as mono or stereo and pan it. You also need to arm the track and you have no ability AFAIK because you've got no headphone set up for Audio interface to hear what you are doing. I suppose you can hear the amp, but that would be it right? I think for the most part people are better off, recording dry and then adding stuff in. I am new to Reaper as well. Good luck with your recording.

Thank you for your help, @DiscoRiceJ. I will continue to play with this but, I find it strange that it is easier to get close to what I want connecting my bass to a Jam 96 and Jamup Pro through Garage Band. I guess Reaper's strength is that it can do a lot of things but, it's weakness is in it's complexity!

 

[deff]

Thank you for your help, @DiscoRiceJ. I will continue to play with this but, I find it strange that it is easier to get close to what I want connecting my bass to a Jam 96 and Jamup Pro through Garage Band. I guess Reaper's strength is that it can do a lot of things but, it's weakness is in it's complexity!

Oh for sure.

 

[BrianVengeance]

After reading through three pages here and spending hours on You Tube Tutorials I thought I would post here.

I was able to get the Studio 40 connected to Reaper with the Fender ASIO driver (thanks to @Diver over in the Rumble Club). This is on a laptop PC running Win 10.

I am still struggling with setting up Reaper. All I want to do is play bass through the Studio 40 along with backing tracks and record them. Reaper appears to be a very complex but capable program. Perhaps my problem is not understanding the terminology in DAW's along with Reaper's multitude of options.

Don't worry too much - a fully featured DAW is a pretty serious bit of software, but remember... complex things are made up of many simple things. Give it some time, and you'll start peeling back the layers.

I would like to record my own backing tracks from CD's I have, using EQ/High Pass filters to eliminate the existing bass lines on the CD's. It would also be great if I could match the pitch from the CD's to the tuning on the bass. I thought I could record my CD's in a track in Reaper, with filters for EQ and/or High Pass. Then, play bass through the Studio 40 along with the track in Reaper, and record the song.

My many attempts at this have resulted in no sound or, sound for the backing track only in the right channel and no bass through it's channel. I don't know if I need a separate audio interface?

I obviously need some help on this and, if anyone can point me in the right direction, I would be very thankful. Heck, with all the hours I have spent on this, I would be willing to pay for support !

Quite a bit to unpack here, but hang with me. I'm going to gloss over some of the nitty gritty, but hopefully it should get the process down. There are a myriad of plugins to handle EQ and pitch shifting, so I won't go into specifics there, but know that reaper comes with a handful of useful plugins out of the box, and they are searchable from the insert window. Also, you can accomplish your goals with a single audio interface, so no worries there.

Getting backing music into a DAW is a reasonably straightforward affair. First, make a rip of the music you'd like to play along with, create a new project in reaper, and then drag and drop the mp3 onto an available track. It should auto create, but if it does not, this can easily be done by double clicking on the left hand space in the track window (or going to the menu - Track -> Insert New Track). You can also go to the menu and Insert -> Media File.

Once the music is on a track, you can begin manipulating it. You won't be able to outright eliminate the bass line without having the individual tracks of the song (rather than a stereo render used in your stereo), but you could use an EQ plugin to cut low frequencies. Will also affect drums, but it should be enough to nudge the existing bass out of the way.

Pitch shifting can similarly be accomplished via a plugin, and again, it will affect everything on the stereo music track. Honestly for this, it would be easier to tune your bass to the song.

If you are only hearing audio on the right channel, then there may be a few things going on. First off, I would check the panning on the track. Look for the second circular knob on the track, to the right of the name field. It will be to the left of the "M" and "S" buttons (mute and solo) and to the right of the routing button (box that says route with three circles above it). Make sure it is top dead center.

If that doesn't resolve things, check the pan on the master output channel (in the mixer window). It will be a lonely knob above the VU meters and below the FX, routing, and stereo/mono button.

When these are set to your liking, create a new track for your bass. Point it to the appropriate input on your interface (there is an input dropdown underneath the track name - should say something like "Input 1"). Arm the track for recording by pressing the red button to the left of the track, et viola, you are ready to record.

If you're not hearing any audio passing through on your bass, you'll need to enable input monitoring by pressing the button directly to the left of the box which shows you the input. It looks like a sideways "pi" symbol when disabled. Just click on it until it looks like a speaker.

Most settings in reaper can also be right clicked to get a context menu, so when in doubt, if you feel like you're in the right area for something, right click it and a useful menu may pop up.

Hope this helps get you a bit more oriented!

 

[SoulReflection]

Don't worry too much - a fully featured DAW is a pretty serious bit of software, but remember... complex things are made up of many simple things. Give it some time, and you'll start peeling back the layers.



Quite a bit to unpack here, but hang with me. I'm going to gloss over some of the nitty gritty, but hopefully it should get the process down. There are a myriad of plugins to handle EQ and pitch shifting, so I won't go into specifics there, but know that reaper comes with a handful of useful plugins out of the box, and they are searchable from the insert window. Also, you can accomplish your goals with a single audio interface, so no worries there.

Getting backing music into a DAW is a reasonably straightforward affair. First, make a rip of the music you'd like to play along with, create a new project in reaper, and then drag and drop the mp3 onto an available track. It should auto create, but if it does not, this can easily be done by clicking on a space in the track window (or going to the menu - Track -> Insert New Track). You can also go to the menu and Insert -> Media File

Once the music is on a track, you can begin manipulating it. You won't be able to outright eliminate the bass line without having the individual tracks of the song (rather than a stereo render used in your stereo), but you could use an EQ plugin to cut low frequencies. Will also affect drums, but it should be enough to nudge the existing bass out of the way.

Pitch shifting can similarly be accomplished via a plugin, and again, it will affect everything on the stereo music track. Honestly for this, it would be easier to tune your bass to the song.

If you are only hearing audio on the right channel, then there may be a few things going on. First off, I would check the panning on the track. Look for the second circular knob on the track, to the right of the name field. It will be to the left of the "M" and "S" buttons (mute and solo) and to the right of the routing button (box that says route with three circles above it). Make sure it is top dead center.

If that doesn't resolve things, check the pan on the master output channel (in the mixer window). It will be a lonely knob above the VU meters and below the FX, routing, and stereo/mono button.

When these are set to your liking, create a new track for your bass. Point it to the appropriate input on your interface (there is an input dropdown underneath the track name - should say something like "Input 1"). Arm the track for recording by pressing the red button to the left of the track, et viola, you are ready to record.

If you're not hearing any audio passing through on your bass, you'll need to enable input monitoring by pressing the button directly to the left of the box which shows you the input. It looks like a sideways "pi" symbol when disabled. Just click on it until it looks like a speaker.

Most settings in reaper can also be right clicked to get a context menu, so when in doubt, if you feel like you're in the right area for something, right click it and a useful menu may pop up.

Hope this helps get you a bit more oriented!

Great tutorial @BrianVengeance! I was about to give up on this thread (and Reaper) but your response is proof that good things come to those who wait, and from members of TB, like you. I will keep at it and pay the $60 for Reaper. It is probably a $200 + software package if they offered support to nubees like me.

 

[BrianVengeance]

Great tutorial @BrianVengeance! I was about to give up on this thread (and Reaper) but your response is proof that good things come to those who wait, and from members of TB, like you. I will keep at it and pay the $60 for Reaper. It is probably a $200 + software package if they offered support to nubees like me.

No worries at all! We all have to start somewhere, and I'm happy to help when and if I can. Feel free to send me a DM or @mention me if you have a question. Can't guarantee that I'll have an answer, but I'll probably see it within a day or two and will try to get back to you.

Reaper is a bit like a shed full of farm equipment when sometimes you really just want to mow the lawn. Definitely worth the $60 and able to hang with the big boys, but may be overkill for some tasks. What I can say is that getting comfortable with it will carry you through most any recording needs you may have, and once you have a fundamental understanding, you'll be able to make reasoned decisions about other DAWs if you like.

FWIW, I have long since switched from Logic to Reaper as my primary DAW. It is affordable and cross platform, which answers the mail (for me) for working on projects where not everyone has a Mac or Logic. The latest version has really tightened up a few things (like horribad menu organization and item/task naming) that always irritated me, but didn't stop productivity. Short of collaborating directly on a project with a studio that uses ProTools, I can't see needing much else for now.

Good luck and happy jamming!

 

[mcnach]

Great tutorial @BrianVengeance! I was about to give up on this thread (and Reaper) but your response is proof that good things come to those who wait, and from members of TB, like you. I will keep at it and pay the $60 for Reaper. It is probably a $200 + software package if they offered support to nubees like me.

I would recommend going through some tutorials on youtube, It looks complicated at first, but it soon clicks in your head.

 

[dlb1001]

Did you set the line out gain control on the amp? On page 57 of the manual, you have to set a gain level for the USB out. Do you see a signal in Reaper?